Combat reports

[ahafan]

Originally Posted by Kutscha

22.02.44 Ofw. Robert Roller: 13 6./JG 3 B-17 JT-2 or FT-2: 7.000 m. [E. Detmold] 13.45 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.70
22.02.44 Oblt. Rudolf Klemm 7./JG 54 B-17 JT-42: 7.500 m. [E. Detmold] 13.45 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr. 234
22.02.44 Maj. Günther Specht: 30 Stab II./JG 11 B-17 Blomberg-Detmold: 7.100 m. 13.42-55 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.21

A friend is looking into the loss of his mother in laws brother and the above are the likely candidates that shot his B-17 down.

How does one go about acquiring the claim document?

one thing if its a surprise Gift-to your relative,i consider it first-as it might upset them if they knew who shot -killed there loved ones.and too the german pilots who might be alive too.
nothin personal;
Sharon

[Kutscha]

Originally Posted by Andreas Brekken

Hello, Kutscha

The films should be available for purchase both at NARA and at the Bundesarchiv/Militärarchiv.

Visit their websites for information on how to order.

Regards,
Andreas B

Thanks Andreas.

[John Manrho]

The films don't show more info than what already is in the Woods-List......so what do you think to achieve?

[mhuxt]

I thought the lists contained flak claims as well, is this not correct?

[Larry deZeng]

Originally Posted by mhuxt

I thought the lists contained flak claims as well, is this not correct?

They do, with a few minor skips here and there.

[mhuxt]

Thanks for that, will have to order them after all...

[mhuxt]

Follow-up question - are the flak claims only those made by units in Germmany, or do the lists also contain claims by light flak, airfield defence etc in occupied territories?

[Larry deZeng]

All Flak units everywhere - Heimat, besetzten Gebieten, Fronten, alles.

Larry

[mhuxt]

Many thanks Larry.

*sigh*, I should know better than to take on new projects...

Any advice as to whether the NARA or the BA/MA files are more complete / legible?

[Larry deZeng]

It's difficult to answer your question because I don't know exactly what you are looking for.

M.I. 15/War Office tracked all German Flak during the war since antiaircraft defenses were considered an Army function rather than an RAF function. But their interest was organization, unit locations and weaponry. They did not produce any information on German Flak claims that I know of.

BA-MA Freiburg Signatur RL 5 contains 506 folders of Flak-Abschüßmeldungen. That's about 12 linear meters of material (39.4 feet).

Larry