Trying to confirm forced-landing of He111 of 9./KG4, 5J+KT, in Norway during spring of 1940--probably at Fornebu

[Larry Hickey]

John Fredrik,

I don't see any He111s on the coppermine website. Were you referring to the terrain, or are there other photos of this He111? The bombers there are Ju88s. It certainly looks like it could be Vaernes. Our EoE Luft Loss DB lists a loss at Vaernes AF that day as: "May 22, 1940: II./KG26 Heinkel He111H-3. Crash-landed at Trondheim-Vaernes, circumstances not recorded. No crew casualties. Aircraft 45% damaged but repairable."

If this is the same as your loss, this could well be the a/c in the photo. We need additional photos of the a/c code to confirm this, among other info.

Regards,

[John Fredrik]

Larry!

A bit embarrased here..see now that this is a JU88 and not a H111...(can I forgive my self seeing so wrong?).

But I agree that the terrain is more likely to be Vaernes than Fornebu.

I have the same loss info but 80% damage and not 45% that you have.
45% is more likely to be correct I think regarding to the pictures of the accident.

Have sent a email to a friend that have some pictures from Vaernes, maybe he got any that can help us.

John Fredrik

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi.

With regards to the 4th photo, I do not believe this to be a body, but what we see is part of a tire lying flat on the ground with some canvas draped over it.

The wing section from the smaller aircraft has a pitot tube sticking out, and I think this is from a Fi 156, as it is so small compared to the He 111? What other aircraft would have such a slim and straight wing?

Regards,
Andreas B

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi.

Losses at Fornebu for III./K.G.4 extracted fast:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=140731
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=140733

Regards,
Andreas B

[udf_00]

In the site :
http://krigsbilder.net/coppermine/index.php
There is a search function :
http://krigsbilder.net/coppermine/search.php
(different results if putting a space or not between He and 111 )
There is also a profile shot of 5J+JT ( in search results for He 111 or 5J)

[markjsheppard]

Larry

Trying to work out how long it had been there as the fence behind is not damaged, been repaired.

Think the 'body' is the starboard main wheel.

Looks like it is gradually being robbed of spares between the photos - spinners, plexi etc.

Does look like the remains of a Fiesler Storch.

Would have required two new wings, engines, undercarried and repairs to underside so 70% seems reasonable.

regards

Mark

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi.

I think 5J+JT must be the 22.04.1940 incident, as the words ´Zaun durchbrochen´is included in the loss record text. Too me this reads that the aircraft ended up outside of the perimeter of the airfield.

Regards,
Andreas B

[ChrisS]

I have this one in my 'He 111 norway 1940 unknown' file I can't read the markings but it lies outside the fence...........

Does it help or hinder in any way?