Luftwaffe fighter crashing into a church in Arnhem in September 1944

[Laurent Rizzotti]

Thanks Matti, this is a confirmation of what I have in my sources.

Concerning Uffz Schmidt of I./JG 76, the official Dutch crahs list had three I./JG 76 in Arnhem area on 19 September: Uffz H Schmidt, Uffz Treibmann and Lt Reich, but these entries have very few details.
See http://www.defensie.nl/media/verlies...m46-154755.pdf

Uffz Paul Schmitt is listed by the same source on 29 September 1944 with an identified aircraft (type and WNr)

[John Manrho]

It was Ransmayer who hit the church tower. It was covered in smoke and apperantly he saw it too late. Crash was witnessed by wingman.

The reason why this is also listed as the Uffz. Schmidt is that a Dutch researcher made the wrong conclusion back in the nineties and published that also. He believed the date in the diary is correct and simply saw Uffz. Schmidt from I./JG 76 as the only candidate.

The loss of Uffz. Schmidt of I./JG 76 (gefallen) comes from the war diary of the 3. JD. No further details.

John

[Brian Bines]

ADI(K) report 551/1044 shows that a Gef. Georg Kuhr flying a Me 109 G-12 ( this is what he claimed but I assume a G-14) Yellow 4 of 3/JG76 made a belly landing at 1200 hrs on 29th Sept. near Nijmegen he was made a POW. Any chance that the aircraft shown as being flown on the 29th. by Uffz Paul Schmitt was Kuhr's aircraft and Schmitt is an accidental entry for that day, I did not see an entry for Kuhr from the Defence Ministry list on the 29th ,

Regards

Brian Bines

[John Manrho]

Brian,

That is another crash....Gefr. Kuhr flew Bf 109G-14, werknummer 460408, gelbe 4, 3./JG 76.

There are more crashes missing in the Dutch MoD list.....several enthousiast are working on an update.

John

[Brian Bines]

John, Thanks for the info.,

Regards

Brian Bines

[Laurent Rizzotti]

Thanks a lot, especially to John

[John Manrho]

And Ransmayer was quite a succesful pilot....30+ vic