German wrack from (germ.:Karsbach) and germ. Hinzendorf) in present in Poland

[KrisJG3]

THANKS John !

Soon this information will be changed - we will write official letters to German institution.
Of course if pilot will be confirmed in 100% also will have own grave on the cmentary as known soldier.


Best regards,

Kris

[John Manrho]

And as already stated on an other forum, Uffz. Günther Rabeler is also mentioned (with picture) in the German Red Cross (DRK) Bildlisten, page LH 160.

J.

[KrisJG3]

He is also here, but without photo:

http://www.denkmalprojekt.org/dkm_de...l_wk1u2_ns.htm

Scharnebeck, Landkreis Lüneburg, Niedersachsen:
Verlustliste aus: Henning Soltau: Scharnebeck in der Zeit der
Umbrüche von 1914 bis 1945: - Monarchie, Republik und Diktatur
[in Steffen Grimme: „Scharnebeck gestern und heute“].
II WW

Namen der Gefallenen:

Unteroffizier RABELER Günther Geburtsdatum: 1919 Todesdatum: 1945

Can I ask on prive (DRK) Bildliste, page LH 160 ???

Thanks,

Kris

[KrisJG3]

Dears ,

Just now we can inform that "our pilot" from wrack Bf109G-10 (Werk Nr. 490362) on the "Schwarze 9" was Uffz. Günther Rabeler from 2./JG3 (Stab I.)
By the way one of our collegues from team received information from archive about Russian pilot Andrienko Stiepan Ivanowicz (from 233 Fighter Regiment) which probably (on 99%) hitted aircraft with Uffz. Günther Rabeler during air combat.
Russian pilot Andrienko Stiepan Ivanowicz for battle (on 3.03.1945) with strong German forces received order: «Красное Знамя».

It was great job our: "FORENSIC MEDICINE" and team "POMORZE1945" - both from Szczecin.

http://pomorze1945.com/?co=50&lang=EN

Big THANKS also for all other people involved in our action.
Special THANKS for Andrzej ,Piotr and Edward !

( PS- the same Werk Nr.:490362 and pilot name there are on the list from DRK).

Best regards,

Kris

[jarecki71]

Originally Posted by KrisJG3

Dears ,

Just now we can inform that "our pilot" from wrack Bf109G-10 (Werk Nr. 490362) on the "Schwarze 9" was Uffz. Günther Rabeler from 2./JG3 (Stab I.)
By the way one of our collegues from team received information from archive about Russian pilot Andrienko Stiepan Ivanowicz (from 233 Fighter Regiment) which probably (on 99%) hitted aircraft with Uffz. Günther Rabeler during air combat.
Russian pilot Andrienko Stiepan Ivanowicz for battle (on 3.03.1945) with strong German forces received order: «Красное Знамя».

It was great job our: "FORENSIC MEDICINE" and team "POMORZE1945" - both from Szczecin.

http://pomorze1945.com/?co=50&lang=EN

Big THANKS also for all other people involved in our action.
Special THANKS for Andrzej ,Piotr and Edward !

( PS- the same Werk Nr.:490362 and pilot name there are on the list from DRK).

Best regards,

Kris

For the data above, this information is not confirmed out of context. So this is what is known about the Soviet pilot that ran a 03.03 45 aerial combat with a score of three victories:
03.03.45 – 1 – Ю-52 – сев. Фрайенвальде
03.03.45 – 1 – ФВ-190 – вост. Альтдамм
03.03.45 – 1 – ФВ-190 – сев. – вост. Альтдамм
He never scored a Me109.
To sum up how you can give a reliable source from whence this information.
PS.
This pilot has only fly in JaK-3
Best Regards
Jarek

[KrisJG3]

Originally Posted by jarecki71

(.....)
He never scored a Me109.
To sum up how you can give a reliable source from whence this information.
PS.
This pilot has only fly in JaK-3
Best Regards
Jarek

Dear Jarek ,

You have not right ("in half") - information about:
Andrienko Stiepan Ivanowicz (from: 233 Fighter Regiment, aircraft: Jak-3 // 233 иап, самолёт: Як-3)
is on base Russian document from archive. If you need more details you can contact directly with Piotr B. - I am sure that he will confirm this fact.
I saw this document, too.
He will explain you information about ( "...He never scored a Me109. ...") Fw190 / Bf109 - I think.

Best regards,

Kris

PS - I know that is very and very interesting real situation about combat battle in 3.03.1945 between German 2./JG3 pilots and pilots from 233 Fighter Regiment ( some additional info. proably soon - it needs a lot of time)