Interesting photograph of He 111 Sep-1939

[Franek Grabowski]

Marius

Yes, but we are mainly discussing about the Polish fighters and their victories. That`s what I mean.

And I say it is the best and probably only reliable source to read about PAF during the Polish Campaign in English.

It is bullshit. It`s your personal problem with Germans. Why do hate Germans so much?

No, it is not. I know several Germans, born there, living there and even flying with the Luftwaffe. Neither of them behaves like you.

I don`t think so. Polish main airfields were totally destroyed in the first two days of September. So there remained no reserves for the frontline units. The rest of the Polish AF powers had only symbolic value.

Luftwaffe hit no combat aircraft, only trainers and even wrecks. The impact was nil - Polish AF suffered more because of moving frontline, poor logistics and lack of replacement aircraft rather than Luftwaffe actions.

Practically Polish AF did not exist, because it was much too weak.

Perhaps it did not exist but it says a lot of (lack of) quality of the German airmen, who were unable to destroy so few aircraft.

Very good Franek. There were plenty of P.11`s in schools, but in September 1939 three squadrons had stiil to fight with the old P.7.

Oh, another sample of manipulation! I have never said there was plenty but there was enough P.11s in schools to convert the airmen.

As I know most pilots had to learn flying the P.11 in operational units. Those ones who leaved for example Deblin in 1939 had no possibility to do that.

You do not know. That simple. Pilots of XIII course have not finished their training, so there is no point to discuss it further. They have practically not seen active service during the Campaign either. The photos I have are from albums of pilots of XII course.

Only empty patriotical phrases. German records are telling us another story than yours. I trust in German documents.

Nope, German records are just telling that. It is you, who does not understand the difference between shot down and destroyed aircraft.