He 219 found in Denmark !!!

[ju55dk]

I do not know the sources that Harrison uses, but in the recent years there have surfaced other sources than losses. So to find a Wnr. totally new to the He 219 series seems unlikely. But I would love to be proven wrong.

Junker

[Kim Christiansen]

Hello All

@ SES 203 + @ 201

Please look at the attached image from Fuel Cones ..
Greetings
Kim C

[harrison987]

In this case, it is a part number for the nacell only.




95% of all werk numbers ranges are based on orders placed, and actual documented losses - not on the specific werk numbers made. I have never actually seen official documents from any wartime manufacture that states, "on this day we made werk # "X", and it was complete, transferred to unit "X". There are numerous wrecks from various aircraft being found where the main werk falls "outside" the werk number ranges that are documented, as well as loss records.

Which documents are you referring to specifically?

[Marcel Hogenhuis]

Dear Harrison,

I agree with Jörn Junker completely because that little bunch of active He219 researchers do agree about the Werkenummer sequences produced and 195xxx were not among these.
If one tries to understand the history of the He219 in reading all what has been written about this nightfighter, everyone is deluded by numerous errors and misconceptions, which seem to increase with each next publication, that's why some people started last year to reconstruct the history with as much primary sources as possible and as a result, several myths and big question marks have been solved.

You are raising a good question how we can be sure:
The initial Schwechat production including 11 of the 12 preproduction prototypes of He219A-0's is for 99,9% sure and well documented in the Heinkel archives, the few uncertainties are the few losses due to allied bomb raids in april and june 1944 and the few He219D-0's of early 1945.
However, with the help of a few known Werkenummer and known deliveries/acceptance numbers, these can be reconstructed pretty well. Nearly all Werkenummer/Stammkennzeichen combinations are now known as well.

The Rostock produced He219's show another picture: except for the very first He219V-1 prototype, the first series produced He219A-0 was delivered 30 April 1944. Though most of the following Werkenummer blocks can be distinguished based on known Werkenummer, known Stammkennzeichen of combinations of these, we must also rely on known first flights and/or transfer dates in flight logs, to define the Rostock production.

All the best,
Marcel Hogenhuis / Venlo

[ArtieBob]

There are indeed some records that give the W.Nr. and date for individual aircraft produced, i.e.accepted(BAL). I have had access to this information from Fiesler, for Fi 156, Fw 190, etc. and I am certain they existed for most, if not all, Luftwaffe production, they just have not survived or are inaccessible.
Best Regards,
Artie Bob

[ju55dk]

Originally Posted by harrison987

In this case, it is a part number for the nacell only.




95% of all werk numbers ranges are based on orders placed, and actual documented losses - not on the specific werk numbers made. I have never actually seen official documents from any wartime manufacture that states, "on this day we made werk # "X", and it was complete, transferred to unit "X". There are numerous wrecks from various aircraft being found where the main werk falls "outside" the werk number ranges that are documented, as well as loss records.

Which documents are you referring to specifically?

Well the Heinkel archive have a lot of documents as to when and were specific Wnr. were transferred, and also what happened to them, both for He 219 and also He 177. Besides that we have some FB's from FLÜG that show transfer of He 219.
And I see that you also have concluded that the Wnr found was not part of aircraft Wnr.

Junker

[Kim Christiansen]

Hello All

Below is a link to tvmidtvest.dk regarding the raising of the HE-219 Denmark.

>>>>> http://www.tvmidtvest.dk/nettv/?id=16074

Unfortunately only in Danish yet.

Have a nice summer.

Greetings
Kim C

[Marcel Hogenhuis]

Hello Kim,

I only understand a few words and recognize the pictures and some footage, but it's a nice documentary ! Please keep us informed with all they - the cleaning team - find.

All the best, Marcel

[eknutson]

Hi Junker, were are the Heinkel archive located. Need more information for the HE115 in sola

Regards
Ernst

[Marcel Hogenhuis]

Deutsches Museum Münich

Marcel