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Old 25th November 2005, 22:08
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Re: Books about Luftwaffe and air war by Olaf Gröhler

Jens,

2. We had an interesting and hot discussion here on the forum where I asked for such a Luftwaffe document clearly showing the German intention against civilians (in Poland or later). Nobody was able to show us such a document and this is very interesting, even surprising.
If Groehler would have know more he had never to cut out the sentences from this particular original document. He surely would present such a "strong" document. The solution is clear: he hadn`t at hand a better document.

3. Joachim Trenkner`s article is well known. But it is a fairy tale (the ZDF reportage was based on Trenkner`s article). The only truth is that on 1.9. German bombs hit Wielun. The rest is based on what was written in Poland after the war. And this was clear directed in a particular direction (one more German war crime). Trenkner even manipulated the take off time of the Ju 87`s in German original documents to bring the evidence that the bombing attack was a brutal act of terror against civilians (according to Trenker the bombs fell at 4.40 hours - 5 minutes before the official attack by German troops!!).

The machine gun fire is much questionable. Every book describing the opening of the war on 1.9.1939 is stating about the very bad weather conditions in the morning of that day. Make your conclusions yourself.

In original German documents you will find the military target expected in Wielun: a Polish "cavalry brigade". Yes, hereby were killed civilians. But the intention was to hit Polish troops, not civilians.

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