Pilots of No.615 Squadron .

[Col Bruggy]

Hello,

Re: Hamilton RAAF. Photo here:

http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=5371981

p.2 of 35 (But read cautionary note on p.4).

Col.

[schnellmeyer]

Many thanks , BruceMK11 , Adriano and Col.Bruggy for all your help , I am really very grateful that you took the time out to supply the information that I was looking for .

[Tony Kearns]

Originally Posted by schnellmeyer

Can anybody please help me with details and photos of the following two pilots from No.615 Squadron . F/O Rene Mouchotte and Sgt. Hamilton . These two pilots attacked a JU88 off the southwest coast of England on 26 August , 1941 .

Gd' Evening all,
A very interesting thread, F/O Mouchotte and Sgt Hamilton both list in their combat reports that the interception took place 40 miles north of Pembroke Dock. Lt. Ludwig Stockbaur always maintained that the credit for their eventual force landing should have gone to the Ack Ack Boys during their mission.
Would anyone have Sgt Hamilton's aircraft individual id letter for his aircraft please.?
regards
Tony K

[schnellmeyer]

Hello Tony , good to see you are also still researching the Luftwaffe crashes in Ireland too , this forum is a wealth of information. Keep up the good work.
Just out of interest in correspondence I had with Lt.Ludwig Stockbauer he said the reason they landed in Ireland was because of damaged they received from the fighters that attacked them .

[Bruce Lander]

Hi,
some more information from the very good French Aces site


http://frenchaces.pagesperso-orange.fr/recit/m+raf.html

Bruce Lander

[Tony Kearns]

Originally Posted by schnellmeyer

Hello Tony , good to see you are also still researching the Luftwaffe crashes in Ireland too , this forum is a wealth of information. Keep up the good work.
Just out of interest in correspondence I had with Lt.Ludwig Stockbauer he said the reason they landed in Ireland was because of damaged they received from the fighters that attacked them .

Thank you Justin, yes I never stopped in my interest in the Luftwaffe, Allied and Irish Air Corps operations over Neutral Ireland and visit this SUPER site when time permits. Will you be doing any research on the Luftwaffe crashes in Ireland?

Your mention of Stockbauer’s landing in Ireland on 26 August 1941 being the result of fighters certainly contradicts the discussions which Paul Stormer had with him. Stockbauer visited him in his Hamburg home on at least three occasions and on one of those visits Gottfried Berndt was present. He was at that time very clear that the damage was from anti aircraft fire. I sent copies of the combat reports from Mouchotte and Hamilton to Paul Stormer. Stockbauer was in agreement with the reports. I spoke to Herbert Schulze (Bordfunker) when he phoned me from Germany and he stated that Stockbauer had shut down the port engine prior to the interception. After the attack, Oblt. Lauer (B) detailed him to send a message that they had been attacked by Spitfires (sic).Over two and a half hours later he sent another message to say that they were landing (Cork) and repeating Spitfires!

Certainly conflicting there.

[schnellmeyer]

Like you Tony I have never stopped researching the Luftwaffe crashes in Ireland and hopefully in early 2013 myself and Paddy Cummins will be publishing a book on the subject . After many years of hard work and countless visits to Germany I think it's about time a book was done on the subject.
In relation to the Stockbauer crash there sure is conflict with some of the information that we have got from the vets .
As you know Paul Stormer was a very close friend of mine and I met him at his home in Hamburg on numerous occasions and we worked very hard together to build up a super collection of material about the Luftwaffe crashes in Ireland.
As I already said in letters that I received from Lt.Ludwig Stockbauer he put the damage of the JU88 down to Spitfires , have we any idea what AA battery fired on the JU88 if any ??
You were very lucky indeed to speak to Herbert Schulze , Stockbauer told me that he passed away many years ago .
I guess in some cases we will never know the true story as crew members often tell different versions of events as they happened .

[Tony Kearns]

Sorry, I did not realise that you were researching the Luftwaffe crashes in Ireland just thought it was trawling. Has anyone told Paddy Cummins that he is writing a book?
Stockbauer encountered anti aircraft fire in the Bristol area and later on approach to Birmingham. It was following then that he shut down his port engine.
I had a number of phone conversations with Herbert Schulze in 1982.
I am not aware that you were such a close friend of Paul Stormer.

[schnellmeyer]

Yes of course I am researching the Luftwaffe crashes not just trawling .
I am surprised you asked about Paddy Cummins in such a way , myself and Paddy have been working together for many years now , all you have to do is ring him to confirm this.
Yes , Paul Stormer was a very close friend . I was friends with Paul from 1997 until he passed away contrary to what some people may claim .I was also the only Irishman to visit Paul at his home while researching the Luftwaffe crashes in Ireland . I had the pleasure of visiting him four times in total and he also gave me his personnal collection plus awards documents . I believe he also gave a copy of his file to the Military Archives and you Tony .
I have tons of correspondance from Paul in which he clearly states that I have his full permission to use the material that he gave me , these letters are there for anybody who doubts that I have Paul's permission.