KG 1 Crash landing 1940

[Chris Goss]

Has anyone got a record of a KG 1 He 111 crash landing near Hazebrouck during either the BofF or BoB? Vague I know but hopefully someone will match it

[Khorat]

Hi Chris,

only searching for the name Hazebrouck, find:

02.11.1939 He 111 H-2 5350 F6+EK of 2.(F) A.Gr. 122 Staple near Hazebrouck bellylanding following combat with 5 Hurricanes Oblt. Ohmsen POW,
Oblt. Wezel, Franz (B) DOW, (Bf) Schmidt, W. wounded/POW, (Bs) Uffz. Jung,W. POW

next May 10th 1940 Borre, 3 km east of Hazebrouck emergency landing following combat with fighters, plane exploded 45 minutes later, killing 2 of the crew, He 111 P 1G+CL of Stab I./KG 27, Oblt. Jenett, Rudolf POW,
(B) Fw. Müller, Hans POW, (Bf) Uffz. Glagow, Erich KIA, (Bm) Uffz. Herpin, Ernst KIA

source: GQM; Waiss KG 27 II, page 115


regards
khorat
Michael Balss

[Chris Goss]

Michael: Definitely KG 1 as one can see V4 on the photo. Aircraft is complete by the way

Chris

[Norbert Schuchbauer]

Hi Chris,
I have one near Arras on 25-Oct-40 of II./KG 1 a He 111 H-2 WNr. 5325 due to fuel starvation. This is the closest I have for KG 1 to the location you mentioned.

Regards,
Norbert

[Larry Hickey]

Cris,

I have two photos of this one in the EoE DB. My caption says V4+JL? down in May or June, 1940. Haven't tried to match this one up, so I'm very interested in identifying this one as well.

Regards,

Larry Hickey
EoE Project Coordinator

[Chris Goss]

My photo just shows V4+ and part of the individual letter which appears to be black not white or yellow. Aircraft is complete and appears to have suffered fighter damage

[obdl3945]

Larry/Chris...

Larry, the first image below, from the left, is V4+J?, but I think it carries the 3./KG1 'Eagle and Lion' insignia on the forward fuselage under the canopy glazing. I think we see the top, rear edges of the eagle's wings. Not sure if this is the one you were referring to, but I included it in case you've not seen it before.

Chris,

From your description of "the individual letter which appears to be black not white or yellow. Aircraft is complete and appears to have suffered fighter damage", I have a set showing V4+KL which might match the description and have included a few of the clearer ones below. I should add that the source website for this image gives the location as Beaumont, but not sure how reliable that might be.

Hope this helps, or adds interesting confusion, as the case may be!

Regards,

Paul

NB: source of all images are expired e-bay auctions.

[Larry Hickey]

Hello,

I believe that Chris Simmonds has this right. There were apparently at least two a/c of 3./KG1 that FL intact during the WC. One appears to have been V4+JL, the first photo that Chris posted (and Chris Goss asked about), and the second the well-photographed V4+KL. The latter was an H-3, W.Nr. unknown, that FL at "Waremme" near Leugnies-Grandieu SW of Beaumont, Wallonie, Belgium, on May 10, 1940, with Obfw Otto Odenbach POW. I have no further details on V4+JL other than it apparently also FL during the WC/FC.

Does anyone have further photos of that a/c that would confirm the codes, and hopefully help lead us to the date and location?

Regards,

Larry Hickey
EoE Project Coordinator

[Chris Goss]

The first photo is the one I have. Does the 8 June 40 loss fit?