3./JG 77 machine: or "A Little Brown Job to start 2014"!

[ChrisS]

Yes Franck, Jim P has very kindly uploaded original copied documents over at LEMB here: http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/fo...=2#entry115193

[Clint Mitchell]

It would be nice to get a comprehensive list together confirming which units did use Braun with accompanying scans of the period documents if anyone can help.

So far the use of Braun confirmed on a primary source:

6./JG26 (loss: Aug 43) (Jim P)
9./JG54 (loss: July 43) (Jim P)
9./JG2 (loss: June 41) (Jim P)
15./JG51 (loss: Jan ??) (Franck)

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Clint Mitchell

It would be nice to get a comprehensive list together confirming which units did use Braun with accompanying scans of the period documents if anyone can help.

So far the use of Braun confirmed on a primary source:

6./JG26 (loss: Aug 43) (Jim P)
9./JG54 (loss: July 43) (Jim P)
9./JG2 (loss: June 41) (Jim P)
15./JG51 (loss: Jan ??) (Franck)

Note: I already had the losses given by Jim but without "documentation".
Good idea Clint.

[ChrisS]

Please also include these units from Gerhard's excel spread sheet list all of which he has extrapolated from the same original documents as Jim.

1./JG 51
12./JG 51
15./JG 51
16./JG 54
3.(J)/LG 2
3./ErprGr 210
3./JG 51
3./JG 54
3./JG 77
6./JG 26
7./JG 26
7./JG 54
7./JG 77
9./JG 2
9./JG 27
9./JG 54
9./JG 77
9./SG 4
ErgGr./JG 1
ErgGr./JG 2

[ouidjat]

Still in the documentaion loaded by Byron:
Line 7.) 10.) and 14.)

[John Manrho]

16./JG 54 carried blue numbers, not brown.....never saw any proof of brown for this Staffel. Of course brown was used by several other units, that can't be the discussion?

[ouidjat]

Yes Chris

this is exactly what I have except for JG 77 ...

47 entries in my (little list), including one WNr.1994, Braune 3 in EGr. 210, flown by Lt. Max Horst and shot down (Landed, crashed?) at Caterham, Sussex.
Don't have the document about that one ... But some good fellow has, for sure.

Regards, Franck.

[Clint Mitchell]

You know where I'm going with this Chris. In the interest of fairness let's just include units where we have been provided with actual examples of the period documents showing the mention of 'Braun'. It's not that I do not trust anyone I just think it's fair under the circumstances... That way it's totally transparent and we have the actual proof right in front of us.

[ouidjat]

No fight John, no Fight!!
most probably an error on this one, I was talking about JG, not Staffeln. I doubt too for 16./JG 54.
AH there is a "RoteBraune" in IV./EJG 1. ....

[ChrisS]

I understand you Clint, but I have no reason to disbelieve Gerhard, just the opposite in fact.

We can add a few more units to your confirmed list thanks to Byron and Franck.