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Old 5th February 2014, 14:59
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Heinkel111H lost 27.10.40 KG1

Good afternoon, could anybody confirm from the NVM the following loss for 27.10.40.
the usual loss details, particularly first names functions etc.

He111H-2 W.Nr 5541 V4+HW crew of Behres,Heinhold Rosenberg, Hartleib, Saumsiegel.A/c said to be of I/KG1. Lost during sortie to Horsham-St-Faith.

I would have expected this a/c to have been from II/KG1 rather than from I/KG1 bearing mind the code and target area?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 5th February 2014, 15:58
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Re: Heinkel111H lost 27.10.40 KG1

1940-10-27, 6./KG 1, He 111 H-2, 5541, V4+HW, Clacton on Sea, 19 km südöstlich Colchester, Notlandung auf See infolge Motorbrand. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fw Saumsiegel, Walter. gefangen
Beobachter Uffz Heinold, Richard, gefangen
Bordfunker Gefr Bösenberg, Karl, gefangen
Bordmechaniker Uffz Berens, Mathias, gefangen
Bordschütze Gefr Hartleib, Rudi, gefangen

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Old 5th February 2014, 16:08
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Re: Heinkel111H lost 27.10.40 KG1

Steve,

i am still scratching my head (possibly it is empty due to some reason beeing too much and too long online)...
...the "W" in this case isn't pointing to IV./KG 1 - most likely a "Ergänzungsgruppe"?

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P.S. (edited): Aaah, okay, if Matti isn't right at least, who is?
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Re: Heinkel111H lost 27.10.40 KG1

Look at this post:

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=36354
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Old 5th February 2014, 18:15
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Re: Heinkel111H lost 27.10.40 KG1

4., 5. and 6./KG 1 used V4+.U, V and W till mid 1941. After that they were used by IV/KG 1 "by the book".

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Old 5th February 2014, 21:17
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Re: Heinkel111H lost 27.10.40 KG1

Thanks a lot Chris and Matti for clearing up this strange case.

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Old 6th February 2014, 09:40
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Re: Heinkel111H lost 27.10.40 KG1

Many thanks Matti for clearing this incident up. My assumption on it being an a/c from II/KG1 was indeed correct then!
Thank you to Norbert and Chris for your help.

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