Bf 109E-1, W.Nr.4065

[Larry Hickey]

Rasmussen,

This may help a little.

The photo of this a/c that was posted above by Franck shows the a/c at the beginning of the war, about the time the Polish Campaign began. Around the end of September, 1939, the red dot and the Staffel number were removed from the rear fuselage and tails of 2./JG77 aircraft. That could explain the differences you see in your crashed aircraft.

We've done a whole series of profiles for I./JG77 aircraft from this period for the EoE Project, which specifically documents these markings and the changes. Like you, I'm most interested in learning the date, place, pilot and circumstances of the crash of Red 12, WNr. 4065. Undoubtedly we have it in the EoE LW Loss DB, but I don't recognize a place called "Mattenwalddorf," so I can't yet pinpoint it for you. It won't be identified by a/c number or W.Nr. in the loss info for this period of the war, so we'll have to use other means to ID it. I'll be watching this thread for more information.

Regards,