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Old 7th May 2014, 23:24
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Re: eBay: a Stab JG27 Bf109.. with Stab emblem??

ouidjat, ouidjat ...

I've found 65 Gridinos in Russia. Your Gridino is the "Google street" - Gridino east from Moscov (55° 28' N, 39° 02' E), my Gridino is/was (it seems) an place near Rhzev (56° 23' N, 34° 36' E) --- without Google street
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Old 7th May 2014, 23:58
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Re: eBay: a Stab JG27 Bf109.. with Stab emblem??

Ah ah ...
Indeed;

That's what I wanted to read from you: 65 Gridino and a Slinkino which is in Siberia NNW from Vladivostok without talking about a Maslovo, 170km East of Vitebsk (Bielorussia)

Hence we can find a Gridino Inside JG27 area as well another one Inside JG52 area....

More important is the German report indicating a single Winkel not <<-.

For me, until somebody proves - but really proves - I'm wrong, MUNZ loss report is giving a wrong WNr. ... But just a speculation; an educated speculation.

Bombing cited by Sidney is more consistant giving a Grodino in JG27 area...

As he said, too, looks like a non sense for a Geschwader Kdr wearing his -supposed - first emblem from I./JG131 and I can add;
Lessmann left I./JG 131 in March when the unit received its first Bf 109Bs in May and when the first documented picture of a Bf 109 wearing the Jesau shield was during the following summer; not on Arado 72. Therefore, most probably, no chance to have kept this emblem with him.

Last, and again, Lessmann machine was wearing his full score board on rudder during the following June of the said accident, why not before when MUNZ was supposed to have flown his machine??

Hence, again, the only logical - but just for me for the moment - explanation is that WNr. is wrong, well written, but wrong.

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Old 8th May 2014, 01:07
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Re: eBay: a Stab JG27 Bf109.. with Stab emblem??

For your JG 27 - argumentation you need:

1.) not an Grodino but an Maslovo in the JG 27 area
2.) an proof that Stab/ JG 27 got Bf 109F- 4 before in Döberitz were given Bf 109F-4trop.
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Old 8th May 2014, 09:31
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Re: eBay: a Stab JG27 Bf109.. with Stab emblem??

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For your JG 27 - argumentation you need:

1.) not an Grodino but an Maslovo in the JG 27 area
2.) an proof that Stab/ JG 27 got Bf 109F- 4 before in Döberitz were given Bf 109F-4trop.
I know Rasmussen,

It's not complete, but coherent

For 2. I think it's done.
For 1. As I wrote before; I read Baslovo and I'm afraid there is as much Baslovo than Maslovo

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Old 8th May 2014, 09:48
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Re: eBay: a Stab JG27 Bf109.. with Stab emblem??

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For 1. As I wrote before; I read Baslovo and I'm afraid there is as much Baslovo than Maslovo.
It's your choice. For me (personal) it seems you have an strange understandig of Roman letters and their spelling ... you live to long in China
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