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Old 29th May 2014, 16:38
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Re: Two JG 7 "Green 2" lost in Fohrde/Föhrde forest on same day?

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Found this when googling for : Clausen 111008
www.fotografie-hundt.de/_me262-db-muster.xlsx
and in google books :
The Me 262 Stormbird: From the Pilots Who Flew, Fought, and Survived It
Colin D. Heaton
p284 for the losses on 17 FEB 1945.
p282 for the loss of Georg-Peter Eder on 22 JAN 1945. Seems that the narrative in Manfred Boehme's JG 7 is mis-dated.
great document!

<The Me 262 Stormbird>and <the Messerschmitt Me 262 combat diary> have the same losses data,i found <Me 262 the production log 1941-1945> should be more accurate
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Old 29th May 2014, 17:03
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Re: Two JG 7 "Green 2" lost in Fohrde/Föhrde forest on same day?

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Hi.

As far as I can see, the following must be the loss linked to Eder:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=101908

In total three losses for JG 7, one for I. Gruppe and two for III. Gruppe.

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According to <Messerschmitt Me 262: The Production Log 1941-1945 >,WNr. 501199 suffer 60% loss after emergency landing,but Eder 's aircraft obviously got totally destroyed .


JG 7 loss at least 4 jets that day:111008,111805,111591,501199
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Re: Two JG 7 "Green 2" lost in Fohrde/Föhrde forest on same day?

I recall wondering about that information about the Fohrde/Föhrde occurances, but was unable to come up with any thing further. I had to simply present the evidence as found.
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Old 30th May 2014, 11:24
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Re: Two JG 7 "Green 2" lost in Fohrde/Föhrde forest on same day?

From this one :
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/STORMBIRD-LUF...-/150852977899
( ISBN 1 902109 00 7 )
p.132
17 Feb 1945 :
No ops, training exercise Leuna-Liepzig area. Returning to Parchim, HB got lost; after flying 50 mn, his n°4 belly landed on the ensnowed heath,
climbing out of the plane unhurt, HB led the 2 others south until making out the Ülsen r/w station and landing at Lüneburg 10-15 mn later.
At least one belly landed somewhere in the Lüneburg Heath.
p.169 Flugbuch facsimile
17 FEB 1945 t/o Parchim 15.17, l Lüneburg 16.17.
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Re: Two JG 7 "Green 2" lost in Fohrde/Föhrde forest on same day?

Hi, all

What is the source for the damage/loss to WNr 111805?

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From this one :
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/STORMBIRD-LUF...-/150852977899
( ISBN 1 902109 00 7 )
p.132
17 Feb 1945 :
No ops, training exercise Leuna-Liepzig area. Returning to Parchim, HB got lost; after flying 50 mn, his n°4 belly landed on the ensnowed heath,
climbing out of the plane unhurt, HB led the 2 others south until making out the Ülsen r/w station and landing at Lüneburg 10-15 mn later.
At least one belly landed somewhere in the Lüneburg Heath.
p.169 Flugbuch facsimile
17 FEB 1945 t/o Parchim 15.17, l Lüneburg 16.17.
thank you!just order this book, now it's on the way~
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Re: Two JG 7 "Green 2" lost in Fohrde/Föhrde forest on same day?

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What is the source for the damage/loss to WNr 111805?

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<Messerschmitt Me 262: The Production Log 1941-1945 > page 140.

95% damage due to engine fire
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