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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)

This one will probably seem strange with the different types of Soviet fighters claimed but these are the only ones matching the time and location. There is another group following this entry.
14 Jul 1943 In the region of Dudorovsky (Ul'yanovsk) covering Soviet forces. A group of 7 Yak-7B under the leadership of Gds. St. Lt. Urusev of the 89 GIAP is attacked in this region and has all 7 fighters shot down. Among the losses are Yak-7B (# 3415345) Gds Ml. Lt. Ivan Semenovich Gaydamakin (KIA). This will have two JG 54 pilots listed among the victors. The Russian time is 17:30-1855 (M). The Soviet fighters appear to have been scattered in the dogfight.

1./JG 54 Lt. Gerhard Loos MiG-3 (25) 16:37 PlQu. 35 Ost/54442
15 (Span.)/JG 51 Maj. Marano Cuadra Medina Lagg-3 (1) 17:30 54339
15/JG 51 Oblt. Manuel Sanchez-Tabernero de Prada LaGG-3 (1) 17:35 E of Shisdra.
9./JG 51 Oblt. Maximilian Mayerl La-5 (57) 17:25 54277 (5 km N of Uljanowo)
" La-5 (58) 17:35 54418 (6 km SE of Uljanowo)
" LaGG-3 (59) 18:05 54462 (25 km ESE Uljanowo)
9./JG 51 Uffz. Rudi Meyer La-5 (20) 17:56 54251
3./JG 54 Obfw. Karl Fuchs (51) 18:11 54427
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This one will probably seem strange with the different types of Soviet fighters claimed but these are the only ones matching the time and location. There is another group following this entry.
14 Jul 1943 In the region of Dudorovsky (Ul'yanovsk) covering Soviet forces. A group of 7 Yak-7B under the leadership of Gds. St. Lt. Urusev of the 89 GIAP is attacked in this region and has all 7 fighters shot down. Among the losses are Yak-7B (# 3415345) Gds Ml. Lt. Ivan Semenovich Gaydamakin (KIA). This will have two JG 54 pilots listed among the victors. The Russian time is 17:30-1855 (M). The Soviet fighters appear to have been scattered in the dogfight.

1./JG 54 Lt. Gerhard Loos MiG-3 (25) 16:37 PlQu. 35 Ost/54442
15 (Span.)/JG 51 Maj. Marano Cuadra Medina Lagg-3 (1) 17:30 54339
15/JG 51 Oblt. Manuel Sanchez-Tabernero de Prada LaGG-3 (1) 17:35 E of Shisdra.
9./JG 51 Oblt. Maximilian Mayerl La-5 (57) 17:25 54277 (5 km N of Uljanowo)
" La-5 (58) 17:35 54418 (6 km SE of Uljanowo)
" LaGG-3 (59) 18:05 54462 (25 km ESE Uljanowo)
9./JG 51 Uffz. Rudi Meyer La-5 (20) 17:56 54251
3./JG 54 Obfw. Karl Fuchs (51) 18:11 54427
Recently I went back and looked at Christer Bergstroem's book "Kursk - The Air Battle: July 1943". I then did some follow up on the 15. (Span.)/JG 51 claims and there is another answer for their victories and losses. The two listed for them are supposed to be La-5 from the 18 GIAP flown by Lt. Pilipeyko and Ml. Lt. Borodavko (I can find nothing about them as KIA or MIA, so I assume they survived). Lt. Eduardo Garcia Amigo and Lt Manuael Sanchez-Tabernero de Prada were shot down and listed MIA. The latter evaded and later returned through the lines. So at least 2 Yak-7B from the 89 GIAP have unknown fates. The Soviet pilots claiming on the 15./JG 51 were Kapt. Vasiliy Terentyev and Serzh. Ivan Vasil'evich Stolyarov (his 1st of 8 career).
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