Me109 Tail section in Italy...thoughts on werk?

[harrison987]

Hey guys...

this is part of an Me109 tail...found in Italy. It appears to be Mtt. G6...any thoughts on the partial numbers?




TIA

Mike

[Revi16]

Looks like 161??7

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Great find, Harrison!

I would read 161xx7. Too bad we'll miss the 4th and 5th digit...

Greetings from Trebizond
Marc

[pelagonia]

Aeronautica Nazionale Repubblicana?

[harrison987]

thanks guys...

This is a German one...

Apparantly found near Viterbo in 1944...any loss records in that area that could match the known numbers?

Mike

[Nick Beale]

There was a lot of action around Viterbo that Spring. It's extremely unlikely to have been an ANR machine if it was that far south.

One possible number is the Bf 109 G-6 of Uffz. Erich Erbe, 8./JG 53, W.Nr. 161707, black 4. He died when he was shot down near Orvieto, on 6 April 1944 however.

[Dennis Peschier]

I don’t want to spoil anything but this does not feel right.
This werknummer seems to be applied with a marker. I don’t know if they were around in the early forties. Furthermore why would one apply the werknummer a second time to the tail. The one applied by the factory is would be clearly visible.
Could it be that is was applied after the crash?

[Kutscha]

Originally Posted by Nick Beale

There was a lot of action around Viterbo that Spring. It's extremely unlikely to have been an ANR machine if it was that far south.

One possible number is the Bf 109 G-6 of Uffz. Erich Erbe, 8./JG 53, W.Nr. 161707, black 4. He died when he was shot down near Orvieto, on 6 April 1944 however.

Don't think the 4th number is a '7' as what can be seen is curved while the 6th number, the '7', is not curved. A '3' or '9' comes to mind so, 1613?7 or 1619?7

Dennis, it does look like magic marker but could have been apples much later to ID the piece.

[harrison987]

Definitely NOT not a marker, it is paint. I have been collecting a looooooonnnnnnng time...