German and US POW aviators defect/escape together?

[Brian Bines]

My German is not too hot but if I read the article in RolandF's post correctly it says the four Germans were sent to a Yugoslav labour camp . The 2nd pilot Christian ? and the fourth unnamed man were shot escaping from the Labour camp, Fredl the pilot was injured at the camp sent home but his neighbours ignored him as a traitor, while Bernhard Kersting ( son of a prominent industrialist) was released after 5 years at the camp.
Any confirmation/ corrections appreciated

[Boris Ciglic]

Originally Posted by RT

Hello Boris,

"The aircraft was eventually dismantled and repaired and was in use by Yugoslav AF after the war."

Is there some lists of the german booty-planes used by Youg.AF after the war ??

Rémi

Hi Remi,

I'm not aware of a systematized list but I think it could be reconstructed with high degree accuracy when it comes to aircraft types. However, exact W.Nr.'s are different story. Are you interested in something in particular?

Cheers,
Boris

[RT]

This Ju52 particulary could be a good start

Rémi

[Boris Ciglic]

This Ju 52 was flown to nearby Prkos airfield near Zadar by capt. Zlatko Dimčović (it barely took-off, as the field was very short) and from there to Zemun, where it became part of Transportna grupa (Transport Group). It carried number 4 on the nose and after the establishment of Yugoslav AF register, received the serial number 7202. Unfortunately its W.Nr. is unknown, as is of other three Ju 52's in use by the YAF post-war.

Cheers,
Boris

[Stig Jarlevik]

Hi Boris

Very interesting information regarding post war Ju 52/3m in Yugoslavia.

If I understand you right the four ex Luftwaffe Ju 52 would then have been 7201 to 7204?

What about the at least other four 7205-7208 (the last one preserved)? I know of four AAC.1 sold or transferred to Yugoslavia from 1945 and on.
They were c/n 77, 78, 222 and 316
Since all of them are said to have been for JAT, I wonder if any (or all) ended up with JRV and fitted into the said slot of 7205-7208?
AAC.1 c/n 222 is of course reported as 7208 which is preserved in Belgrade, but is it?
Finally, did JRV operate only eight Ju 52/AAC.1 or were there more?

Cheers
Stig

[mars]

Originally Posted by Richard Aigner

Frka, Novak & Pogacic"La Force Aerienne Croate 1941 - 1945", p. 302:
(the original is French, the clumsy translation mine), for 3 April 1945:
"Having escaped from a German prison at Tulln, near Vienna, 4 German aviators and 4 American POW aviators reached the airfield at Langenlebarn, where they succeeded in stealing a Ju52/3m ambulance, and took off towards the south. A gasoline mishap forced them to make a crashlanding near the village of Nin, close to Zadar, where they were captured by partisans."
Does anyone on the board know more about this? What became of the 8 aviators?
TIA, Richard

The Keywords here are "April 1945" and "new Vienna", the war was near the end and the Russians were coming, it would not be a bad idea for German aviators to trying to go home and even better, brought some American POWs with them as safeguard.
Actually I knew as a fact, from end of 1944, more and more German soldiers deserted, they just wanted to wait out the war, in the lower countries some of these German deserters became armed bandits to sustain themselves, some of them even went over to the resistance

[Boris Ciglic]

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

Hi Boris

Very interesting information regarding post war Ju 52/3m in Yugoslavia.

If I understand you right the four ex Luftwaffe Ju 52 would then have been 7201 to 7204?

What about the at least other four 7205-7208 (the last one preserved)? I know of four AAC.1 sold or transferred to Yugoslavia from 1945 and on.
They were c/n 77, 78, 222 and 316
Since all of them are said to have been for JAT, I wonder if any (or all) ended up with JRV and fitted into the said slot of 7205-7208?
AAC.1 c/n 222 is of course reported as 7208 which is preserved in Belgrade, but is it?
Finally, did JRV operate only eight Ju 52/AAC.1 or were there more?

Cheers
Stig

Hi Stig,

there were four ex-Luftwaffe Ju 52's in JRV. The one mentioned above, another which landed by mistake in Nikšić, one which force-landed near Hercegovac village, and the fourth found at Cerklje with the code RP+AU. French machines were purchased after the war. Some of these were ceeded to JAT, but which ones i don't know. Total number is eight.

Cheers,
Boris

[vathra]

Originally Posted by Boris Ciglic

there were four ex-Luftwaffe Ju 52's in JRV. The one mentioned above, another which landed by mistake in Nikšić...

There was almost another similar case, in Berane, Montenegro, on May 1944.
Plane landed on airfield, and partisans didn't shoot at it because they want to capture it after landing. One downed American airman came close to plane (thought it was plane that will rescue him to Bari), crew opened door, asked American where they were, and after they got answer quickly flew away.

[Stig Jarlevik]

Thanks Boris

I will check the Yugoslav civil register for further clues.

Cheers
Stig