First German loss due to B-17

[Cees Steijger]

Would anybody know of the first fighter loss of the Luftwaffe due to defensive fire of a B-17?

I came across Oblt. Elmer Göcke 4./JG26 on 2.10.1942 but actually he did make a forced landing and later died in the hospital. Another one that come close I think is Uffz. Viktor hager who's Fw 190 was hit hard on 9.10.1942 by 301BG B-17's, he left his plane but his failed to open. He fell to death.

[Rainer]

The first operator of the B-17 over Europe was the 90 Squadron RAF. Several air combats were reported during the few daylight missions flown with this type from July to October 1941. If I remember correctly the first was when a Fortress successfully defended itself against three Bf 109 on 2 August 1941.

[Cees Steijger]

Thanks for this! Would you also know the facts for USAAF?