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Old 13th May 2016, 22:16
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

When you have family members whose graves were desecrated by marauding bands of Soviets, you'll get your back up. These guys are definitely not archaeologists, judging from the way they handled this dig. Indefensible.
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Old 13th May 2016, 22:45
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

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These guys are definitely not archaeologists, judging from the way they handled this dig. Indefensible.
I've seen photos from other salvage operation in western europe and in many cases they showed the same way of working as what you see on that Russian recovery. Now a days, in western europe, it is much more regulated and salvage/recovery by hobby people became less. On the other hand, if these people did not recover the remains of the pilot he would still be were he crashed, now there is a change that relatives will know what happened and get back the personel effects.
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Is that Prestone (German equivalent) coolant in the hole?

At the 4:18 min mark (in the video) a green fluid appears in the bottom of the hole (that was dry before and dry after) and it's plainly visible until the 5:00 min mark. The liquid looks identical to the Prestone coolant then in use by American liquid-cooled aircraft, and I assume the backhoe punctured the header tank. Does this seem plausible?

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Old 14th May 2016, 14:16
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Re: Is that Prestone (German equivalent) coolant in the hole?

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At the 4:18 min mark (in the video) a green fluid appears in the bottom of the hole (that was dry before and dry after) and it's plainly visible until the 5:00 min mark. The liquid looks identical to the Prestone coolant then in use by American liquid-cooled aircraft, and I assume the backhoe punctured the header tank. Does this seem plausible?

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No, it does not. It was written (in Russian though) that these guys were about to pour a mix of antifreeze and hydraulic liquid over the ground, probably to soften it up.

I would not call them grave robbers. They documented their find on camera and posted it on the internet, which is something that no grave robber would ever contemplate to do. To me, we can discuss about the methods, but it all seems fair play.

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Old 14th May 2016, 21:43
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Re: Is that Prestone (German equivalent) coolant in the hole?

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pour a mix of antifreeze and hydraulic liquid over the ground, probably to soften it up.
In the video and on the forum they says it is a mix of liquids from the Bf109 systems. The wreck lays on the clay sheet so the liquid remained on the place.
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Old 14th May 2016, 21:51
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In the video and on the forum they says it is a mix of liquids from the Bf109 systems. The wreck lays on the clay sheet so the liquid remained on the place.
Thank you for the translation proper. My apology.
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