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Old 25th May 2016, 21:13
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)

Right, Ed, also printing them you save them as .png

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Old 25th May 2016, 21:32
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)

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Right, Ed, also printing them you save them as .png

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Old 27th May 2016, 10:24
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)

Hello, all

Been through the documents, and most of them linkes up with aircraft damaged during the battel of Stalingrad.

Nikita - I just read the full message (in Spain on holiday - not quite awake...) - these are aircraft inspected at the Tschir railroad station!

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Old 27th May 2016, 22:57
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)

Hello Andreas,

Glad to see you on the forum!

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most of them linkes up with aircraft damaged during the battel of Stalingrad.
Where these planes were on paper during their unfinished railroad travel?

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Old 27th May 2016, 23:29
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)

Hi, Andrey.

Been a while - too many obligations with family and work for a while.

Currently working on the list and connecting to loss records - will post whatI find.

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Old 28th May 2016, 23:01
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)

OK, here goes a try to get these sorted - all additional input welcome. I will try to use the serial allotted to each of the airframes by the Soviet intelligence in order to refer to them:

Page 1 has 11 entries, and I refer to them by the model etc as written by the Soviets. I have not altered the records to show information from the new source yet:

1. Ju 87 D-3 Trop WNr 2615: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=149072

2. Ju 87 R-2 WNr 6160:
Not found

3. Ju 88 A-5 WNr 5239:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=145877

4. Me 109F-4/R-1 WNr 13052:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=151701
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147475

5. Me 109E-7 WNr 5339:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=142487

6. Me 109E-7 WNr 5240:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=142392

7. Me 109E-3 WNr 824:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=142471

8. Me 109F-4/Trop WNr 10105:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147048

9. Me 109F-4/Trop WNr 10217:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147045

10. Me 109G WNr 14163:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=148834
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147704

11. Me 109G WNr 14189:
http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147401

OK, that was the first page and first 'batch' - I do not know if the same treatment of the rest of the list is of interest?

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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)

5239 in better days.

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