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Re: Hans Hahn
Thank you Andrew. I checked again and found that Thorn Island on the Thames River is also called Thorney Island which I believe is near the Royal Palace. Still that doesn't provide help with any better odds in his claim as for the RAF only the following appear.
1 Sqn Hurricane 14:45 damaged in air battle with He 111 92 Sqn Spitfire 14:50 west of Ashford 249 Sqn Hurricane 14:35 West Malling in air battle with He 111 302 Sqn Hurricane 14:45 North Weald doesn't give if fighter or bomber in shoot down 303 Sqn Hurricane ? hrs over Dartford with Bf 109 310 Sqn Hurricane 14:45 over the Thames 310 Sqn Hurricane 14:45 over the Thames 504 Sqn Hurricane 14:45 near Dartford So here is the German claims outside of the above listed II/JG 2 claims. Oblt Jerbert Ihlefeld 2(J)/LG 2 Spitfire 15:30 London (I(J)/LG 2 made three more claims for Spitfires during the day with no names, times & locations) (Also Stab and I/JG 3 made three Hurricane and two Spitire claims London with no times) Oblt. Heinrich Sannrmann Stab II/JG 3 Sptfire 15:40 London Maj. Adolf Galland Stab/JG 26 Hurricane 15:30 Themsemündung Oblt. Walter Horten Stab/JG 26 Hurricane 15:30 " Oblt Fritz Losigkeit 2/JG 26 Spitfire 15:40 southeast London Obfw Walter Meyer 5/JG 26 Spitfire 15:35 London (6/JG 27 had one unconfirmed Spitfire SE of London with no time, Stab/JG 51 had a Spitfire with no time and location and I/JG 51 had three Sitfires with no times and location) Lt. Fritz Stendel 8/JG 51 Hurricane 15:28 no location Spitfire 15:36 " Fw Gustav Küll 8/JG 51 Hurricane 15:35 no location Uffz Karl Willius 8/JG 51 Spitfire 15:36 no location (III/JG 51 had two Spitfires with no times and location. Also a Hurricane with the location of Tonbridge) Oblt Franz Hahn 2/JG 77 Spitfire 15:35 no location Oblt Hans-Karl Keitel 1/JG 77 Spitfire 15:40 " Oblt Karl-Heinz Leesmann 2/JG 52 Hurricane 15:25 Themsemündung Hurricane 15:40 " Oblt Helmut Bennemann 2/JG 52 Hurricane 15:30 southern London Hurricane 15:30 Themsemündung Hurricane 15:40 " Oblt. Günther Büsgen 1/JG 52 Hurricane 15:32 no location Oskar Strack 1/JG 52 Hurricane 15:35 no location Oblt Robert Göbel 2/JG 52 Hurricane 15:35 Themsemündung Uffz Heinrich Kooerschläger 1/JG 53 Spitfire 15:50 NW London Fw Walter Scholz 3/JG 53 Spitfire 15:50 10 km south of London Oblt Ignaz Prestele 2/JG 53 Spitfire 15:55 10 km " " Lt Wolfgang Tonne 3/JG 53 Spitfire 15:55 " Uffz Heinrich Rühl 1/JG 53 Spitfire 15:58 south London Oblt Jakob Stoll 9/JG 63 Spitfire 15:33 no location Lt Erich Schmidt 9/JG 53 Spitfire 15:36 " " Oblt Franz Götz 9/JG 53 Hurricane 15:40 " " Gefr Hans Swietlik 13(Z)/LG 1 Spitfire 15:10 " " Obfw Heinz Langenberg 5/ZG 76 Spitfire 15:25 Lt. Werner Pistor Stab II/ZG 76 Spitfire 15:45 10 km SE London Okay with the all these claims and only six Hurricanes and one Spitfire lost (also the damaged Hurricane) the Spitfire of Hahn's is very unlikely. So the 15 Sep 1940 was not a good day. |
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