II./JG 53 – March 4, 1944

[Henofred]

Hello/Bonjour,

I am looking for details about activities of II./JG 53 on March 4, 1944. Details about its mission(s) and its claim(s) of that day which has seen the first daylight bombing of Berlin by a few heavies of the 8th AF. I thank you beforehand for your assistance.

Best regards,
Frederic

[Kaczmarek]

Bonjour Frédéric,

the II./J.G. 53 lost five 109's on that day. Claims two Fortresses and two (one) Mustangs.

Rgds,
René

[Henofred]

Hello Rene,

Merci beaucoup for these informations about losses and claims of the Gruppe. But could you provide me more details? The circumstances for example... Thinking back, is there something in the Jochen Prien book about the Pik As history?

Regards,
Frederic

[Kaczmarek]

Frédéric,

yes I think you will find more details in the book of Prien. I don't have this book.
According to the claim list of Tony Wood, Ofw. Ehrenberger and Lt. Passhaus claimed everybody a B-17 and Lt. Schmiedel a P-51.

Rgds,
René

[focusfocus]

Bonjour

according to Prien: battle with 100 B-17 of the 1.B.Division escorted by P-47 between Koblenz and Remagen

losses:

4/JG53 Lt Gunther Kremer + by B.17 Koblenz ( G-6 wn.19542)
4/JG53 Gefr.Karl-Heinz Schmidt + by B.17,P-47 Kreckel/Sinzing (G-6 wn.440193)
4/JG53 Uffz Hans Disharz wounded by B.17 ?Warscheid( G-6 wn.440 126)

4/JG53 Lt Helmuth Hirsch + Heiligenroth (G-6 wn.440 114) not in fight ("uberfuhrung")

5/JG53 Lt Wilhelm Westhoff Chimay (G-6,black 11+-)

claims:
Obfw.Ehrenberger B.17 (49.)
Lt.Paashaus B.17 (15.)
Lt.Schmiedel B.17 (14.)

regards

[Henofred]

Hello to both of you and thanks a lot for these additional details about II./JG 53 actions that day. I tend to agree with Jochen Prien's text regarding Lt. Schmiedel first claim.

Regards,
Frederic

[focusfocus]

Hello,

I misread for Schmiedel:it's not his (14.) but his First !
the second the 8/6/44 ( a B.24)

8/6/44 :+ O Malestroit/Vannes Bf 109 G-5 110 037 yellow 13+--

regards

[Henofred]

Bonjour focusfocus,

I had fixed the error by myself. ;o)

Regards,
Frederic

[Frans A]

focusfocus,
What do you mean with:
8/6/44 :+ O Malestroit/Vannes Bf 109 G-5 110037 yellow 13+--
Frans A

[focusfocus]

shot down and killed ( by B.24 ??) the 8/6/44
"western of Malestroit near Vannes"