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Old 30th November 2016, 03:58
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Re: He 114 - Pinguin - Hilfskreuzer

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He 114B 2550 Ex. 2./125 7R+CK. 22.09.41 10% Pernau. Damaged by fire from Soviet fighters.
I have following text for 22.9.:
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Fliegerführer Ostsee, Oberst von Wild, griff an diesem Tage persönlich Batterie Abruka mit Bomben und Bordwaffen an und konnte sich in zwei Luftkämpfen mit 1 I-16 und 2 I-153 mit seinem Seeflugzeug (He 114) dem Gegner ohne wesentliche Beschädigung seiner Maschine entziehen.
Damage by enemy aircraft was done probably near insel Abruka (Abro in german), if it is the same plane. http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/targ...%20%20010.html


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He 114B 2572 From 2./125 on 19.07.41. Ex. 7R+IK. 15.09.41 30% Pernau. Damaged by enemy flakduring attack on the seaplane station Papiari on Ösel island.
Location probably Papisaare: http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/targ...%20%20019.html


http://www.luftwaffe-zur-see.de/Seel...n/Jahr1941.htm gives one additional He 114 loss for SAGr. 125:

09.09.41 He 114 A 2533 75% Aufkl.Gr. 125 (See) Überführungsflug, Führungsfehler wegen Glattwasser und Sonne.

I have also picture from expired e-bay action (see attachment), probable location is given as Pärnu / Pernau. Is more about this accident known? Can it be the same plane?
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Old 30th November 2016, 13:25
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Re: He 114 - Pinguin - Hilfskreuzer

Sorry, forgot that one. However, there are some doubts as to the actual Werk-Nummer for this airceraft. In the KTB for Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M./O.Qu. for September 1941, the W.Nr. is stated as 2333. In the Gen.Qu. 6.Abt. loss and damage lists the W.Nr. is given as 253. Is there a third source that could clear this problem.
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Old 30th November 2016, 15:38
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Re: He 114 - Pinguin - Hilfskreuzer

Hi - Cannot confirm with a third source. I would suggest as 2333 is not a He 114 related W/Nr. and the 2nd source gives only 3 dits of 253 it is highly likely that the true W/Nr should read as 2533.
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Re: He 114 - Pinguin - Hilfskreuzer

Björn

According to Volker Koos WNr 2333 was a He 111 B built by EHF at Rostock.
Perhaps not the documentary proof you require, but he is usually very reliable.

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