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Old 3rd February 2017, 21:25
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Re: Nachtjagd [IV./NJG 5] losses in West of France – Spring of 1943

Hello,

Bodenpersonal casualties on Flugplatz Morlaix, an Obegfr. ill and treated in a Hospital at Rennes...all this confirms the presence of this unit in the West of France at that time.

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Old 4th February 2017, 09:53
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Re: Nachtjagd [IV./NJG 5] losses in West of France – Spring of 1943

Hello SES,

I quote you - "The chance of a nightfighter finding anything at night without help of searchlights or radar ground control..."

It seems Brittany was well equiped, no?: http://www.absa3945.com/stations%20r..._bretagne.html

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Old 4th February 2017, 11:24
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Re: Nachtjagd [IV./NJG 5] losses in West of France – Spring of 1943

Dear all,

Elements of IV./NJG5 operated under control of the mobile Himmelbett train Sumatra I in Brittanny in the spring of 1943, before moving to the Eastern Front. I will go into detail in this interesting topic in my new series of books.

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Re: Nachtjagd [IV./NJG 5] losses in West of France – Spring of 1943

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under control of the mobile Himmelbett train Sumatra I in Brittanny in the spring of 1943, before moving to the Eastern Front. I will go into detail in this interesting topic
Hello Theo,

I hope the books will be getting published very soon! Will they contain details of the numbers of radar on strength and deliveries of new radar to the Nachtjagd forces? If they will include details of the Himmelbett trains on the Eastern front, even better!

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Dear all,

Elements of IV./NJG5 operated under control of the mobile Himmelbett train Sumatra I in Brittanny in the spring of 1943, before moving to the Eastern Front. I will go into detail in this interesting topic in my new series of books.

Cheers, Theo
Elements of IV./N.J.G.5 already operate in December 1942 in Britany under control of the mobile "Himmelbett train" Sumatra I -which you should know- I gave you parts of the KTB Sumatra I.
The crew of IV./N.J.G.5 wihch has a loss on 13./14.03.1943 in Morlaix, had this night their first victory!

Gr. René

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Re: Nachtjagd [IV./NJG 5] losses in West of France – Spring of 1943

You're right René, thanks for these additional details.

And Paul -I can confirm that a separate and fully illustrated volume in the new series of books -which will be published by Wing Leader in the UK- is devoted to the Nachtjagd on the Eastern Front, which includes the history of the mobile railway-mounted Himmelbett Nachtjagd.

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And Paul -I can confirm that a separate and fully illustrated volume in the new series of books -which will be published by Wing Leader in the UK- is devoted to the Nachtjagd on the Eastern Front, which includes the history of the mobile railway-mounted Himmelbett Nachtjagd.
Thank you, Theo. Can you give an idea of the publication date of said volume and the likely print run? I am somewhat concerned that the Eastern Front volume will not be the first volume to be published and that with a small print run, the series might soon sell on Amazon for £400 a volume

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Re: Nachtjagd [IV./NJG 5] losses in West of France – Spring of 1943

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Dear all,

Elements of IV./NJG5 operated under control of the mobile Himmelbett train Sumatra I in Brittanny in the spring of 1943, before moving to the Eastern Front. I will go into detail in this interesting topic in my new series of books.

Cheers, Theo
Hi Theo,
This explains everything, but it was completely new to me.
But these trains cound not perform Himmelbett Verfahren, since they were not equipped with Y-Linien. Please see:
http://www.gyges.dk/Ln%20zbV%202.htm
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http://www.gyges.dk/Himmelbett.htm

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Re: Nachtjagd [IV./NJG 5] losses in West of France – Spring of 1943

Thanks for the pointer Michael -you are of course right, in the context of the Eastern Front Eisenbahn Nachtjagd we should correctly use the term 'Dunkelnachtjagd' instead of Himmelbett NJ.

And Paul -I can't tell you at this point the publication date of the Eastern Front volume & the details of the print run; Wing Leader will no doubt make an announcement on the series shortly.

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can't tell you at this point the publication date of the Eastern Front volume & the details of the print run; Wing Leader will no doubt make an announcement on the series shortly.
OK, Theo, will wait for the details from Wing Leader. Not to bug you, but do you happen to remember the size of the print run for the first edition of Nachtjagd?

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