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Old 16th May 2006, 21:57
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He 111 Champlitte

Hello,

Can anyone help with informations on Heinkel 111 which crashed on 15 June 1940 near Champlitte ( France ).
The crew's members : Deringer Helmet, Uffz Hass Otto, Barrang Karl were all killed.
Has anyone further details and tell me the fate of the crew and were they all buried.
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Old 16th May 2006, 22:32
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Re: He 111 Champlitte

KG53 Stab + I were activ this day, they lost 4 He111, where hv you found the names of the crew ???

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Old 17th May 2006, 00:33
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Re: He 111 Champlitte

About this crash we have some info for attribute the claim collective to GC II/5 (Cpte Monaisse, Cpte Duda, S/Lt Klan, Lt Hébrard, C/c Svetlik, A/C Gras ).
So, french people living toward say :
Circa 7h00 one aerial battle was observed on the road for Dijon between "Champlitte" and "le puiseau" (the road was full of french civilians ).
Circa 7H/7H15 one German bomber (2 motors) was crashed near "le puiseau" near one wood (bouleaux in French), one motor, one wheel and the body from one aviator. One other motor fall near the road and some parts are dispersed on 100/200 meters ... we found 3 dead persons and 2 others members of crew are made prisonner of war " by french police from "Fontaine Française" town (Gendarmerie) ...
(Perhaps it's possible to obtain rapport from french archive'a archival services in S.H.D Vincennes).
I obtain theses datas by mr Grandhay, french historian who working about history from "Haute Sâone" department (champlitte country) ..
We know one other german plane was schooting down am 9 hours, but we don't have the crash place ..
I have one lot of pictures from this 111 crash, but without elements for identification of the unity ... We can see one German aviator killed and the relics of the plane .
For moment, i prefer no publish them ...
So, i'm especially interested too to know your source for identity of victims ..

I forget, generally German's aviators killed in our region was moved in Andilly Cemetary (near Toul in France ), but this crash was arrived in 1940, perhaps the body was transfered in Germany .. (With the names if you are sure you can verify for Andilly with German services without problem )


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Old 19th May 2006, 19:19
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Re: He 111 Champlitte

Hello,

Thanks you for your replies.
I had the opportunity to visit the crash place many times and i found some wreckages from the place among a large area.
It seems that the plane explodes in flights.
The crew members' bodies have been found dispersed in the area and they are buried in the communal graveyard. they have been registered at the "état civil" in champlitte and i found the archives documents.
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Re: He 111 Champlitte

There were two losses suffered by 3/KG 53 on this date-Hptm Bernhard Schwarz (St Kap), Lt Karl Schoeppler, Ofw Fritz Weidenhammer; Fw Albert Burger (pilot), Uffz Kurt Berninger (obs), Uffz Karl Berrang (WOp), Uffz Otto Hass (eng). German records say that Burger, Berninger & Berrang were killed near Jussey; Haas near Champlitte. Burger & Berninger are buried at Cernay; Berrang & Haas at Andilly
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