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Old 16th June 2017, 07:18
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Re: Do 217 from Aufklärungsstaffel 4.(F)/Nacht - 25.02.1945 - MIA

I would be very surprised if this unit's war diary still exists especially as this ac was lost so close to the end of the war
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Old 16th June 2017, 16:20
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Re: Do 217 from Aufklärungsstaffel 4.(F)/Nacht - 25.02.1945 - MIA

I will ask otherwise, because I am very much interested in identifying the plane that I found the rat.
Is it possible to determine the loss of aircraft Do 217 M-1 in the months III-IV 1945?
On the eastern front, in the area of fighting in Lower Silesia, the only unit that had such aircraft was the Aufklärungsstaffel 4.(F)/Nacht. By 9 February 1945, they were stationed at Sprottau Airport. So the plane at night bombarded its former base.

I will add that the area of the catastrophe from mid-February was already in the hands of the Soviets. According to the stories of the local population, next to the wreckage of the plane there were 2 graves with German helmets. Probably two aviators died during an emergency landing. Then the bodies were exhumed. The plane was in good shape. Then he was dismantled by the local people in 1946 and sold to the steelworks.
Is it possible to fix a crew?
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Re: Do 217 from Aufklärungsstaffel 4.(F)/Nacht - 25.02.1945 - MIA

Hi samgamgee,

in the Gen.Qu. loss reports of 1945 following losses of the Nachtaufklärungsstaffeln are listed:
15.2.45 4.(F)/Nacht Do 217 M-1 6206 100% crashplace unknown 4 missing
25.2.45 4.(F)/Nacht Do 217 M-1 326340 100% crashplace Zobten (according to Laurant Rizzotti) 4 dead
04.3.45 2.(F)/Nacht Do 217 M-1 326209 65% bellylanding Oranienburg
09.3.45 2.(F)/Nacht Do 217 M-1 336221 100% Niederwerder 1 dead, 4 injured
19.3.45 2.(F)/Nacht Do 217 M-1 326421 20% landing accident Neuruppin
27.3.45 2.(F)/Nacht Ju 188 D-1 230126 25% crashlanding Neuruppin.

In the JaPo-book "Luftwaffe Over Czech Territory 1945" are mentioned:
11.4.45 4.(F)/Nacht Do 217 M-1 6331 100% PlQu 4272, 4363.
16.4.45 the USAAF bombed the airfield Prag-Kbely, destroying 5 planes of 4.(F)/Nacht:
Do 217 M-1 561168
Do 217 M-1 326406
Do 217 M-1 723024
Do 217 M-1 326475
Ju 188 D-2 230427.

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Re: Do 217 from Aufklärungsstaffel 4.(F)/Nacht - 25.02.1945 - MIA

Huge thank you Leo !!!
You have done a hard job for which I am very grateful to you !!!

According to the information provided by the exclusion that only one aircraft is involved:

15.2.45 4. (F) / Nacht Up to 217 M-1 6206 100% crashplace unknown 4 missing

There is only one doubt. 15.2.45 The Soviets were still 10 km east of the crash site, so the plane would still be in German territory and the fate of the crew would have been known. But it's only 10 km and maybe a little less. The area is dense forests of Lower Silesian Forests, 1.650 km2 ! It was night.

Leo is known to the crew?

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Re: Do 217 from Aufklärungsstaffel 4.(F)/Nacht - 25.02.1945 - MIA

Hello Jarosław,

the crew is listed in the Gen.Qu. loss report from March 1, 1945 No. 45 and a completion from March 8, 1945 cipher v:
F/Pilot Ofw Alfred Lorch
B/Observer Oblt Josef Blininski
Bf/Radio Operator Ofw Julius Buichl
Bs/Gunner Gefr Alfred Tischler.

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