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Old 1st July 2017, 23:04
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Re: The first 4 Ju88C-6 prototypes?

360027 and 360147 had not been built in early 1942 (time of query).

First 10 be thus such:

[ Produced from October 1941 ]

================ [ C-6/B ] ==================

360151 Ju 88 C-6 [RR+SA] Luftwaffe
- Ju 88 C-6 [R4+CA] Stab.IV/NJG 2
(Lw.Befh.Mitte) OPS (F) damaged by enemy fire in air-combat (25% Er) nr Gilze-Rijn [Holland, in night of 01/02.08.1942] 01.08.1942 (F Hptm. Herbert Seving inj, two other uninjured)
[rep C6 151 of Erg.St./NJG 2 in LWFLV losses 75v04.08.42; rep C6 360151 R4+CA of Stab.IV in Michael Balss “Deutsche Nachtjagd”]

360152 Ju 88 C-6 [RR+SB] Luftwaffe
- Ju 88 C-6 [R4+AD] Stab.III/NJG 2
(Lw.Befh.Mitte) OPS (F) downed by enemy fire (100%) near Rotterdam [at ´Rhoon / Poortugaal´ (10 km south of Rotterdam) in Holland at 01:25 hrs, night of 31/01.08.1942] 01.08.1942 (F Hptm. Herbert Bönsch, BF Fw. Otto Böttcher and BS Ofw. August Willi mis/killed hh/26.08.42)
[rep C6 152 R4+AD in LWFLV losses 74v04.08.42; amd 360152 in a/28.08.42; Aircraft parts and human remains recovered 17.11.1994: see NFLA Wreck Register (Update 2003); also Michael Balss “Deutsche Nachtjagd”; NVM via LBB]

360153 Ju 88 C-6 [RR+SC] Luftwaffe
- Ju 88 C-6 [R4+LR] Erg.St./NJG 2
(Lw.Befh.Mitte) OPS (F) [was returning from operation] crashed (100%) near Breda [i.e. at Ulvenhout near breda, Holland, at 01:40 hrs in night of 16/17.02.1941] 17.02.1942 (F Oblt. Alfred Malonaar, BS Fw. Johann Jost and BF Ofw. Alwin Scheibel killed)
[rep C6 in LWFLV losses 79v18.02.42 amd W.Nr. 153 in h/20.02.42 ~ likely <C6> 360153; rep C6 360153 R4+LR in Michael Balss “Deutsche Nachtjagd”]

360154 Ju 88 C-6 [RR+SD] Luftwaffe
- Ju 88 C-6 8./NJG 2 (Lw.Befh.Mitte)
Non-OPS (H) pilot error and crash landed (15%) at Gilze-Rijn [Holland] 30.08.1942
[again rep C6 154 of III/NJG 2 ´undercarriage dam´ 15% at Gilze-Rijn 30.8.´ LWFLV losses 102v02.09.42]
- Ju 88 C-6 4./NJG 2 (Lw.Befh.Mitte)
OPS (F) undercarriage damage (15%) at Comiso 19.12.1942

360155 Ju 88 C-6 [RR+SE] Luftwaffe
- Ju 88 C-6 9./NJG 2 (Lw.Befh.Mitte)
OPS (F) engine failures and belly landed (10%) at Gilze-Rijn 02.09.1942 [again rep in LWFLV losses 06.09.42; now as ´C6 155´ of III/NJG 2 ´engine fire and force landed 10%´]
- Ju 88 C-6 10./NJG 3 (Lw.Befh.Mitte)
OPS (F) technical troble (80%) at Schleswig Airfield 01.09.1943

360156 Ju 88 C-6 [RR+SF] Luftwaffe
- Ju 88 C-6 Erg./NJG 2 (Luftwaffe)
Non-OPS (H) crashed on training flight, 6 km south-west of Gilze-Rijn, Holland, 03.08.1942 (Obgefr. Rudolf Morenz and Gefr. Walter Stwtetschka injured, Obgefr. Anton Boy killed)

[not in LWFLV or LWFLS losses ?; rep C6 360116 in Michael Balss “Deutsche Nchtjagd” (poss. in error as C6 360116 made in about October 1942; poss. 360156 (here)]

360157 Ju 88 C-6 [RR+SG] Luftwaffe
- Ju 88 C-6 I/LG 1 (Lw.Kdo.Süd-Ost)
OPS (F) damaged by enemy bombing (20%) at Saloniki-Sedes Airfield 24.06.1943 (rep C6 36015 in LWFLV losses 03v05.07.43; amd 360157 in g/21.08.43) [two on unit strength list]

[0157 Ju 88 C-6 IV/LG 1 (Lw.Kdo.Sud-Ost)
OPS (F) damaged by <enemy> bombing (15%) at Saloniki-Sedes Airfield 24.06.1943 (rep C6 0157 in LWFLV losses 10v05.07.43 ; along with other of same unit: Ju 88 A-4 W.Nr. 142429 25%, Klemm Kl 35 W.Nr. 1764 80%, Caudron C-445 No. 490 100% and Junkers W 34 W.Nr 211 15% damaged) - Note: no C-6 on unit strength list but can be the other of I/LG 1 (abowe)]

360158 Ju 88 C-6 [RR+SH] Luftwaffe
- Ju 88 C-6 [F1+XM] 4./KG 76 (Luftwaffe)
[360158´ UC: rep at Taganrog Airfield in late-winter (1941/1942): photos in Brian Filley: “Ju 88 In Action” (Part 2) P.15 ~ likely same as the one reported below]
- Ju 88 C-6 [F1+XM] Stab./KG 76
(Luftflotte 4 East) OPS (F) missing (100%) unk location (PLQ 8375) 13.07.1942 (F Uffz. Franz Vorst, BF Uffz. Horst Winkelmann and BS Uffz. Wilhelm Mücke missing) (rep C6 F1+MX in LWFLV losses; but photo shows unit code was F1+XM)

360159 Ju 88 C-6 [RR+SI] Luftwaffe
- Ju 88 C-6 [F1+YM] 4./KG 76 (Fliegerkorps
VIII East) OPS (F) missing (100%) unk location (Welish) 16.02.1942 (F Lt. Rudolf Bundt, B Gefr. Alfred Jordan and BF Fw. Karl Jensen mis/rep ret allright in f/20.02.42)

[C6 3615 F1+YM in LWFLV losses 04v17.02.1942; not <C6> 360005 nor 360015 and other <A4> 2615 (3615) is known lost later; poss. 360159 etc.- Placing here is speculative!)]

360160 Ju 88 C-6 [RR+SJ] Luftwaffe
- Ju 88 C-6 Erg.St./NJG 2
(Lw.Befh.Mitte) OPS (F) damaged by enemy fire and belly landed (25% Er) at Gilze-Rijn Airfield 20.05.1942 (rep Ju 88 C6 160 in LWFLV losses 38v23.05.42)
[160 Ju 88 C6 of Stab./NJG 2 (Lw.Befh.Mitte) ´OPS (F) 25% Er´ in LWFLV losses 52v29.05.42 but report was struck out in s/01.06.42 >dupl.]
- Ju 88 [RR+SJ] Luftwaffe
Known flown Werkflug at JFM Reims 12.05.43 [F Zimmermann; as Ju 88 0160 RR+SJ in logbook]

Note: some are placed by speculation (as one digit typos etc.) and explained. -Ed
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Old 2nd July 2017, 12:22
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Re: The first 4 Ju88C-6 prototypes?

Many thanks for the info Merlin, Leo and Ed!
As usually, an answered question raises more questions:

Will it be worthwhile to purchase the Michael Balss books for futher reference (or even pictures) of R4+LR (360153) and it's pilot A. Molenaar or is the info limited to the data found in the LWFLV losses reports?

Since 360153 was flown by Erg./NJG 2 on that fatal night due to the icey conditions, is there any chance the book Carlsen & Meyer: Die Flugzeugführer-Ausbildung, Band II "Fliegerwaffenschulen und Ergänzungsgruppen" will provide more in-depth stories of Erg./NJG 2 during it's time at Gilze-Rijen?


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360153 Ju 88 C-6 [RR+SC] Luftwaffe
- Ju 88 C-6 [R4+LR] Erg.St./NJG 2
(Lw.Befh.Mitte) OPS (F) [was returning from operation] crashed (100%) near Breda [i.e. at Ulvenhout near breda, Holland, at 01:40 hrs in night of 16/17.02.1941] 17.02.1942 (F Oblt. Alfred Malonaar, BS Fw. Johann Jost and BF Ofw. Alwin Scheibel killed)
[rep C6 in LWFLV losses 79v18.02.42 amd W.Nr. 153 in h/20.02.42 ~ likely <C6> 360153; rep C6 360153 R4+LR in Michael Balss “Deutsche Nachtjagd”]
Could you explain RR+SC in relation to R4+LR?


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