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Old 5th August 2017, 14:54
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Hello Kirill,

alright, so I'll note down the plane type as Tupolev SB.
Can you tell me the given names of Mr. Chugunov and Mr. Rybak ?

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alright, so I'll note down the plane type as Tupolev SB.
Can you tell me the given names of Mr. Chugunov and Mr. Rybak ?
Hello Michael,
The memoirs are very inaccurate. I found operational documents and in them the type of Sdobnov plane on 25.06.1941 - Pe-2.
"gunner-radio operator Rybak" I can not find - probably in memoirs inaccuracy.
As of 06.07.1941, the Pe-2 is also likely.
In the award document of Sdobnov for these two missions, his crew shot down not 5 planes (as write in memoirs), but three were shot down and one damaged.
In the award documents of Chugunov for the same period, 4 shot down together with the gunner-radio operator are indicated. Of these, two are personally a navigator.

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Hello Kirill,

a Pe-2 ? Oh no ! I was hoping for a Tupolev ace...
It is possible to find out which aircraft 48. BBAP was equipped with in June/July1941 ?

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It is possible to find out which aircraft 48. BBAP was equipped with in June/July1941 ?
Approximately so, but there may be inaccuracies (repairs, return from forced, breakdowns):
on 22.06.1941 - 48 SBAP - 39 Pe-2; 224 SBAP - 13 SB; 225 SBAP - 21 SB.
on 03.07.1941 - 48 SBAP - 4 (?) Pe-2 & 1 USB; 224 SBAP - 7 SB & 2 I-15bis; 225 SBAP - 9 SB.
on 07.07.1941 - 48 SBAP - 6 Pe-2; 224 & 225 SBAP - 6 SB.
on 13.07.1941 - 48 SBAP + 224 & 225 SBAP = ? Pe-2 + ? SB
on 23-24.07.1941 - 48 SBAP - ~3 Pe-2 & 2-3 SB
on 28-31.07.1941 - 48 SBAP - ~1-2 Pe-2 & ~1-2 SB
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Good evening Kirill,

that looks very much like a Pe-2 ace.
Thanks for checking.
Are there any notable Tupolev pilots known to you ?

Have a nice Tuesday,

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Re: Tomas Polak's STALIN'S FALCONS

Good evening Gentlemen,

when I emigrated to Switzerland I left my STALIN'S FALCON in Germany. If memory serves me right Nikolai Vasilchenko scored 4 kills in 1920 which would make him the top-scorer of that comparatively peaceful decade. Could anybody please have a look if that's true ?

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Good evening Gentlemen,

when I emigrated to Switzerland I left my STALIN'S FALCON in Germany. If memory serves me right Nikolai Vasilchenko scored 4 kills in 1920 which would make him the top-scorer of that comparatively peaceful decade. Could anybody please have a look if that's true ?

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http://airaces.narod.ru/ww1/vasilchk.htm
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Good evening Gentlemen,

when I emigrated to Switzerland I left my STALIN'S FALCON in Germany. If memory serves me right Nikolai Vasilchenko scored 4 kills in 1920 which would make him the top-scorer of that comparatively peaceful decade. Could anybody please have a look if that's true ?

Cheers,

Michael
Page 325 in STALIN'S FALCONS:

Vasilchenko, Nikolai N. - One of the first successful fighter pilots of the Red Air Force, N. S. flew in the 6th Istrebitelnyi Aviatryad, claiming at least four victories against White forces during 1920.
Known claims
1920
12 August.....2.....De Havilland DH 9s......near River Dnieper.....6th IAO
14 October....2.....E/a

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