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Old 12th August 2017, 20:58
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KG-13A ID?

Can a specific aircraft type be identified by the markings on this KG-13A?

Looks like BPK (or Bp K/N (cannon?) on the top and V25 on the bottom.

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Old 12th August 2017, 21:37
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Re: KG-13A ID?

for reverence: https://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/fl-...l-kg-13a-1944/

v25 remark for electric system ( diagrams how connections made throughout the weapon systen)

KG13A, KG13B & KG13C grips used in a variety of late-war Luftwaffe types. The same grips were manufactured/used post-war in the Eastern bloc and found in early MiG jets

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Old 15th August 2017, 22:07
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Re: KG-13A ID?

Is the V25 marking specific to the wiring in a Bf 109, Fw 190, Me 262?
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Old 16th August 2017, 16:10
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Re: KG-13A ID?

Me109
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Re: KG-13A ID?

Which type? i found v23 for 109 G series and v60 for 190 A5-A6
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Old 16th August 2017, 23:26
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Re: KG-13A ID?

And V60 for Bf109K, Fw190 G3. V23 Bf109 G6> & Bf110 G. Type electric schema.(Wiring diagram).
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Old 17th August 2017, 15:22
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Re: KG-13A ID?

Sorry...I thought it was V23.

V25 does not exist, as far as I know.

The location where this is written is typical of Me109 production only...annnnnnnnnnd...there is something I do not like about the numbers...compared to the rest of the corrosion/damage.



jarecki71:

V60 was never used on the Me109K. All the codes change in the late G10/K series...and V60 was specific to the Fw190 only.

V23 was never used on the Me110 either.

Electrical codes were SPECIFIC to each aircraft type.
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Re: KG-13A ID?

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Electrical codes were SPECIFIC to each aircraft type.
You sure about that?
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Re: KG-13A ID?

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Old 18th August 2017, 12:02
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Re: KG-13A ID?

Snautzer, each aircraft had its own electrical wiring diagram with codes for the different electrical equipment. There was no rule amongst aircraft industry that a code would only be issued for one particular aircraft type, but it was rather by chance that codes like V23 were not used by other aircraft types. This now helps identify the aircraft type these sticks belonged to.

The Fw 190 typically had V60 (I say typically, because there were some late war variants with autopilot that had a different code for the control stick, 1V43). It typically had a KG 13B, but exceptions are known (KG 13A, and in late production KG 13C)

The Bf 109 G typically had V23 (see http://germancontrolsticks.blogspot....Bf%20109%20G-6). It typically had a KG 13A, but exceptions are known.

I haven't come across one with V25, but that doesn't mean it didn't exist. The color (red), placement (large V-number around the base) and type (B1-Kn.) of marking on your stick is typical for a Bf 109 stick and I'd bet it came from a 109 if it is an original marking.

B1-Kn. stood for B1-Knopf, which was the button at the top. The trigger was called A-Knopf and the button on the top left B2-Knopf.

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