8 October 1940 - Daylight raid on London

[Faenor]

Originally Posted by Roundway

Thank you Robert,

A bit more digging found a reference to '50 German aircraft crossing the coast at 0830 BST near Dungeness at 30000 ft, with fighter cover above' (http://blitzincidents.blogspot.co.uk...ober-1940.html) .

However, this seems a little at odds with another source (http://www.luftwaffeinprofile.se/Hur...09%20%204.html) which refers to 'a large group of BF 109s from JG 54, of which 11 were carrying bombs'.

Unfortunately neither writer quotes a source nor identifies the Bf 109's base.

Brian

Hi all,

on this link is described, that Hurricane of Sergeant Josef Frantisek was claimed by Leutnant Max-Helmuth Ostermann. Accoording my information, Sergeant Josef Frantisek perished in crash caused by possible airbone indiscipline. Are there new information about this loss? Have somebody more info about Ostermann claim of this Hurricane?

http://www.luftwaffeinprofile.se/Hur...09%20%204.html

Thanks

Faenor

[Chris Goss]

I believe that his death was attributed to an accident when his Hurricane hit a tree and crashed at Cuddington Way, Ewell, Surrey. He was on a patrol and was seen to dive away. No records of any German aircraft and not mentioned in the Northolt Polish War diary

[Faenor]

Originally Posted by Chris Goss

I believe that his death was attributed to an accident when his Hurricane hit a tree and crashed at Cuddington Way, Ewell, Surrey. He was on a patrol and was seen to dive away. No records of any German aircraft and not mentioned in the Northolt Polish War diary

Hello Mr. Goss,

I have same data from Czech or Polish source.

But I can imagine that this undisciplined but excellent pilot spotted a German airplane and disconnected from the squadron formation - and unhappily crashed when he was chasing enemy plane ...

But it is just theory .....

Faenor

[Chris Goss]

No German aircraft were seen during the patrol and it has been suggested it was oxygen failure

[Faenor]

Hello Mr. Goss,

theory of the oxygen failure is new for me.....in Czech and Polish literature is most often mentioned reason for this crash:
- aerobatic figures to impress his girlfriend or
- result of battle fatigue and physical exhaustion

https://fcafa.com/2010/07/24/josef-frantisek/

I would like to say that Josef František perished the day after his birthday - and because he was not "a Saint" - maybe his death is combination of these factors .....pilots in this time fight fast and they live fast .....

Faenor