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Re: First Yak9 shot down
Very first combat loss occurred on March 15, 1943 with 32 GIAP Ml.Lt. Vladimir Gnatenko failed to return from air combat with pilots of either I/JG54 or II/JG54 in Staraya Russa area.
Then go losses of 163 IAP on May 9 and May 10. |
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in the log of combat operations and the journal of combat losses of the 3rd Guards IAD ml.lt. V. Gnatenko in the last mission was on Yak-1. Best regards, Kirill |
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Thanks Kirill, so the first Yak-9 combat loss was not his plane. BTW, 91 IAP also had 0315323 and 0315324 from batch No.03 on June 19, 1943. Thanks,
Gabor |
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Then a mistake in operational reports. However, a handful of Yak-9s participated in this mission, loss report can clear this up if exists.
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addition: Comrade suggested that there are other documents (mainly 1 Guards IAK), which indicates a slightly different information (on the number of missions, composition and fights), but in what fight and on which plane was the loss of lt. Gnatenko there is no single-valued data. St.Lt Garam returned the next day with the plane. Last edited by kirche; 1st March 2018 at 11:11. |
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Hi folks,
Here are some Yak-9 losses from the first 2 batches of the Novosibirsk Factory No.153 in 1943 that I know of. As you see, the 16 VA, 273 IAD regiments (IAPs) had significant losses in early July, 1943, yet all of these losses were suffered later than eg. the ones of the 91st IAP still in June. Yak-9, S/N: 0115322 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 347 IAP, shot down on July 6, 1943 Yak-9, S/N: 0115365 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 347 IAP, shot down on July 5, 1943 Yak-9, S/N: 0215321 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 347 IAP, shot down on July 5, 1943 Yak-9, S/N: 0215335 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 157 IAP, shot down on July 6, 1943 Yak-9, S/N: 0215338 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 163 IAP, shot down on July 5, 1943 Yak-9, S/N: 0215346 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 163 IAP, shot down on July 6, 1943 Yak-9, S/N: 0215359 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 347 IAP, shot down on July 5, 1943 Yak-9, S/N: 0215361 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 157 IAP, shot down on July 6, 1943 Yak-9, S/N: 0215374 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 347 IAP, shot down on July 5, 1943 Yak-9, S/N: 0215386 - 3 VA, 256 IAD, 91 IAP, shot down on November 6, 1943 Yak-9, S/N: 0215389 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 157 IAP, shot down on July 7, 1943 Yak-9, S/N: 0215392 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 163 IAP, shot down on July 5, 1943 Yak-9, S/N: 0215395 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 163 IAP, shot down on July 5, 1943 Yak-9, S/N: 0215397 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 163 IAP, destroyed on the ground on July 5, 1943 Yak-9, S/N: 0215398 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 163 IAP, shot down on July 5, 1943 .................................................. .................................................. ...... Yak-9, S/N: 0315301 - 16 VA, 273 IAD, 347 IAP, shot down on July 7, 1943 ...etc. Gabor |
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There are many names by date and regiments, but I cannot match them to the listed Yak serials, only as a small group of the potential pilots.
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