Bf 109 crushed near Goltzen

[Chris Goss]

100%=TOTALLY DESTROYED

[Matt13]

Originally Posted by Chris Goss

100%=TOTALLY DESTROYED

Thank you.

After hours of studying archives I more and more doubt it is the plane of Hahn. In some Russian site I found this:
30 января 1945
унтер-офицер Герхард Дёпке (Uffz. Gerhard Dоpke), 10./JG.6
На истребителе Bf 109 G-14/AS W.Nr. 786533 «Schwarze 4» не вернулся из полета в район Унруштадта, ныне Каргова (Польша).

Mentioned town Kargowa is 10 km from Goltzen. This is the closest I found. What is more - it is not written that it crashed near Kargowa but it was the destination. I assume plane not found.

[Rottler]

Hello Matt,

in the Gen.Qu. loss report from 7 February 1945 is listed:
30.1. III./JG 6 Feindflug Ort: Raum Unruhstadt, Ursache: Unbekannt Bf 109 G-14 786533 schwarze 4 100% Uffz Gerhard Döpke vermisst.

Regards
Leo

[John Manrho]

Döpke reported MIA in Boyadel-Kleinitz-Unruhstadt area. Not that far from Goltzen.

Hahn was reported missing 10 km NE Grünberg but crashed near Lezyca.

John

[Matt13]

Originally Posted by John Manrho

Döpke reported MIA in Boyadel-Kleinitz-Unruhstadt area. Not that far from Goltzen.

Hahn was reported missing 10 km NE Grünberg but crashed near Lezyca.

John

Thank you my friends. I didn't expect so fast support.

John, you have so detailed information. I could not find any information about any BF 109 in Łężyca, but if you say so, you probably have reliable sources.

So Döpke is the only one possible from pilots available in data bases. Both of them were members of III/JG 6 which was located in Sorau (Żary) at this time. What is pessimistic many shot down pilots from this formation can be ommited what can finish my case without ending. How it is with completness with this kind of information?

[John Manrho]

As you stated that the a/c crashed 1944/1945 and that you have no more information it could practically be anything. Loss lists from 1944/1945 are far from complete and it is impossible to tell which a/c this is without more information on the crash itself.

Regards,

John

[Matt13]

Originally Posted by John Manrho

As you stated that the a/c crashed 1944/1945 and that you have no more information it could practically be anything. Loss lists from 1944/1945 are far from complete and it is impossible to tell which a/c this is without more information on the crash itself.

Regards,

John

Today I managed to have a conversation with the last living witness. He was 10 by the time. He said it was January 1945 and there were many Russians in the area and the village itself. They were rushing for Berlin. Front line was further on west. He heard the sound of the plane and ran out of the house. He said he saw Russians took the plane. He didn't see, but he was later told that pilot escaped the plane with parachute. Is it possible in Bf 109?

Too bad that this great man is terminally ill and e. g. yesterday he couldn't have even a small conversation. I don't know if I will be able to find out anything more but now this is not the biggest problem.

Thank you guys. If anyone will know something more about Gerhard Dopke and Bf 109 G-14/AS W.Nr. 786533 «Schwarze 4» please let me know. I still believe this could be it