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Old 27th July 2018, 14:04
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Re: Il-2 pilots with 10 or more aerial kills

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Originally Posted by Edward L. Hsiao View Post
That list of Soviet tank killers was based on Soviet sources and not believed at all by a lot of people of the world. I for one didn't believe that list. Victor Golubjev's vehicle kills of 875 is not right. Very few German tank crews and truck and other vehicle drivers had ever given reports about how effective Soviet ground assault planes were.

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Edward L. Hsiao
Good afternoon, Gentlemens.
The same words can be said about H.-U. Rudel and him's 519 tanks and 800 vehicles (0,2 tanks and 0,32 vehicles on mission).
Data about V.M. Golubev is likely distorted information about group victories, not personal (in him's other award documents, almost all mention of the destroyed equipment is made in the context of the actions of his squadron). A specified data - this till August 1943 (at the time of the second "Gold Star").

Data on V.I.Kozlovsky also likely related to his squadron (maybe this group claims of squadron under his command for 6-10 aircraft). As of April 1944 (him's "Gold Star"), he (him's crew) claimed 3 aircraft, 15 tanks and 120 vehicles (0,15 tanks and 1,2 vehicles on mission). Vehicles in the USSR, sometimes it's and carts and individual horses (but sometimes they were divided).

In any case, this does not cancel total overclaiming all ground assault planes.
The loss of Soviet tanks from the actions of the Luftwaffe was also not great - even in 1942, with the superiority of the Luftwaffe in the air and in tank brigades with light tanks (T-60, T-70, M3 Stewart, M3 Lee).

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Kirill
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