List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)

[Andrey Kuznetsov]

Hello Dan,

meticulous work, with one exception:

17. He111 is 7860, not 7360

Best regards,
Andrey

[Dan History]

Originally Posted by Andrey Kuznetsov

meticulous work, with one exception:

17. He111 is 7860, not 7360

Thank you for the correction, Andrey.

[ArtieBob]

Dear Dan,

I only have searchable data for Ju 88s from this list. The only Gen.Qu.6.Abt listings for Ju 88s at Armavir are Nos. 12, 13, and 16. The code for 13 is probably 9K+FN?. W.Nr. for Ju88s are possibly:
4(144077), 12(142254), 13(144018), 14(430322), 15(140371), 16(144070). 109s 19 and 20 are probably Bf 109
G-1s, not L.

Best Regards,

ArtieBob

[Andrey Kuznetsov]

Hello Artie,

Originally Posted by ArtieBob

The only Gen.Qu.6.Abt listings for Ju 88s at Armavir are Nos. 12, 13, and 16.

What is the info in Gen.Qu.6.Abt about Nos. 12, 13, and 16 in the list?
And whether the fate of 144110 and 144094 (Nos.7 and 5 in the list) is known?


Best regards,
Andrey

[ArtieBob]

Dear Andrey,

Pardon the delay, I have been a bit under the weather!
The data from Gen.Qu.6.Abt.(mfm #7)-Vol.12 is as follows:
I have been clearing out my library and no longer have
an original copy, just what is entered in my data base,
there may be some data missing, particularly crew member
names.

12.2254 88 A-4 5. KG 76 4.11.42. 75% Fl.Pl. Armawir
Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #7)-Vol.12 KIA by Flak. 2 others KIA,
1 WIA. Roland, Fw. Anton Ru§land F

13.4018 88 A-4 II. KG 51 25.1.42 60% Fl.Pl. Armawir
Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #7)-Vol.12 Bombenwurf. Ru§land F

16.4070 88 A-14 7.KG 76 26.10.42 20% Armawir
Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #7)-Vol.12 Undercarriage damage.
Ru§land F

Since 4070 Ju 88 A-5 V4+CR was reported as 100% on 4.12.41,
it seems almost certain that the actual W.Nr. for 16.was
144070,a common mistake in the early days of the 6 digit
W.Nr.use.

I have no other entries for either 144094 or 144110, so
it is possible they were abandoned at Armawir.

Best Regards,

ArtieBob

[Dan History]

Originally Posted by ArtieBob

Gen.Qu.6.Abt listings for Ju 88s at Armavir are Nos. 12, 13, and 16. The code for 13 is probably 9K+FN?. W.Nr. for Ju88s are possibly:
4(144077), 12(142254), 13(144018), 14(430322), 15(140371), 16(144070). 109s 19 and 20 are probably Bf 109
G-1s, not L.

Dear Bob,

Thank you for your comments. Fragments of fragments, as always with Luftwaffe research!

I have taken the opportunity to send you a question relating to the employment of the Ju 88 in 1942, prompted by my research relating to operations in the Mediterranean.

Kind regards,

Dan