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Old 6th August 2018, 15:37
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Re: French WW2 decimal score aces

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FalkeEins - thank you. I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure what you're getting at with your post.

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..just to clarify and respond. You asked "..did Clostermann ever state what the markings on the Tempest represent..?"

From the above he did..
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Old 6th August 2018, 15:48
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..just to clarify and respond. You asked "..did Clostermann ever state what the markings on the Tempest represent..?"

From the above he did..
Sorry, I can't agree. This passage -

(The photograph that Pierre sent with his letter, with him in the cockpit of 'Le Grand CharIes'~, NV724, JF.E of 3 Sqn., circa July 1945, showing the twenty-three black crosses representing his accredited confirmed 'kills', and the nine white outline only crosses for 'probables' and 'ground kills')

is obviously NOT written by Clostermann. If it is, he got his Tempest info wrong for a start .... It is information/opinion provided by a third party - or am I wrong?

Yes, he did state he considers the citations for 11 and 12 kills respectively to be confirmation of his kills, but the makeup of those kills is not stated, nor is the meaning of the 9 white crosses.

Not trying to be argumentative, just precise.
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Old 6th August 2018, 17:53
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Re: French WW2 decimal score aces

Here's a reproduction of the document, this list is also found on a link provided earlier I think :






And here's something about the top 10 French aces :


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Here's a reproduction of the document, this list is also found on a link provided earlier I think :

And here's something about the top 10 French aces :
Good afternoon Gentlemen,

thanks a lot for your many fascinating posts about this complicated topic. I will have a lot of fun working them through and cross-checking everything.

Dear Alfred Monzat: thanks for the document showing 19 Clostermann kills. I did not even know that something like this exists. Can you tell me the dates of the 14 shared kills ?

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Re: French WW2 decimal score aces

No but a link in one of your posts show some of them.
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Yes, it shows six half-shares in the Tempest.
Does that mean that the missing eight shared kills (all Fw190's) were scored in the Spitfire ?
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Re: French WW2 decimal score aces

...the new Clostermann article by Christophe Cony seems to indicate that Clostermann didn't score any shared aerial kills at all (?)

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