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Old 8th August 2018, 15:08
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Hi,

very interesting post,

checking the claims:

5./JG 54

Reinhold Hoffmann claimed 8 at least 1 was fake
Emil Lang 17 at least 7 were fake
Manfred Peschke 1 so this only was fake

Alfred Gross 1
Friedrich Zander 2

6./JG 54
Albin Wolf 2

12./JG 54
Herbert Aloe 1
Helmut Grollmus 1
Karl-Heinz Luchau 1

just a look into claims and losses, seems the other pilots try to made more reliable claims...

with the info of Evgeny Velichko 33 vs 9, you have more info of the 9 losses to link with claims?

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in Nick Hector info:

256 IAD. Only two Yak-7s damaged and forced to belly-land during the whole day for 5 claims...

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12./JG 54
Herbert Aloe 1
Helmut Grollmus 1
Karl-Heinz Luchau 1
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This is 100% Luchau's victim.
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Hi,

many thanks for your info,

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with the info of Evgeny Velichko 33 vs 9, you have more info of the 9 losses to link with claims?
Claims of 5, 6 and 12./JG54 over Kiev on 3.11.43:

15 Il-2. Soviet records: 2 lost to Fw190 (crew dead), 2 damaged by Fw190/bellylanded (1 a/gunner killed)

5 La-5. Soviet records: 3 La-5 lost to Fw190, 3 damaged/bellylanded (2 pilots wounded).

15 Yak-7/9. Soviet records: 2 Yak-7 damaged/bellylanded.
Note: 1 "Yak-7" claim turned actually into La-5 real loss.
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Hi Evgeny

What is your impression of the Kittel claims?, with Rudorffer I can see the connection with Kurt Tangermann, but have not been able to establish a long-term rottenflieger for Kittel.....and you can't cheat alone. Also no extraordinarily huge days for Kittel.

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