Fw 190 A-8/R2 Lt Bretschneider / two questions

[Horst Weber]

Originally Posted by Rémi Baudru

Bonjour,

I have recently purchased the new Eduard model of the "Sturmbock". One of the seven options of decoration is for the Fw 190 A-8 W.Nr 682204 (red 1) of Lt Bretschneider of 5/JG 300 in late 1944. Pictures of this plane can be found page 70/71 of the Vol 2 of the books written by Jean-Yves Lorant = Bataille dans le ciel d'Allemagne (JG 300 story) or page 363 of "Focke Wulf Jagdflugzeug..." written by Peter Rodeike).

In the notice of the Eduard model it is written : "according to new sources, the inscription bellow the cockpit (Rauhbautz VII) was yellow with red shadowing... and the spinner carries a white spiral on a red background".
Does any follower of this forum could tell me what are these "new sources" ?

Could anyone explain how could "Rauhbautz" be translated ?

Thanks in advance.
Best regards.
RB

Rémi !

"Rauhbautz" is the name of a horse in German military service (Armeepferd), whose adventures were created in two novels by a German writer Lehmann in the beginning of the 1940ties. It's very hard to translate it,. Rauh means raw or rough. Bautz seems to be a local dialect term or an apprevation for the city of Bautzen. Since Bretschneider was a Berlin origin and Bautzen is not so far away, maybe a stud farm existed near Bautzen, which produced "Rauhbautz'es"

Only a guess.


Best wishes !


Horst Weber

[Maciej Góralczyk]

Ask this user: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/member.php?u=92
who was mentioned by Eduard as a consultant for this project.
Otherwise, looking at the photos, I agree with the representation of the inscription in the described way.

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Horst Weber

Rémi !

"Rauhbautz" is the name of a horse in German military service (Armeepferd), whose adventures were created in two novels by a German writer Lehmann in the beginning of the 1940ties. It's very hard to translate it,. Rauh means raw or rough. Bautz seems to be a local dialect term or an apprevation for the city of Bautzen. Since Bretschneider was a Berlin origin and Bautzen is not so far away, maybe a stud farm existed near Bautzen, which produced "Rauhbautz'es"

Only a guess.


Best wishes !


Horst Weber

Horst

Being non-German speaking I can only rely on what my memory says here.
Someone has stated that Rauhbautz ment "tough guy" (don't mess around with me or I will kick your xxx type of individual)
Correct? Don't know, but looking at photos of Bretschneider.....perhaps not impossible....

Cheers
Stig

[Nick Hector]

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik

Horst

Being non-German speaking I can only rely on what my memory says here.
Someone has stated that Rauhbautz ment "tough guy" (don't mess around with me or I will kick your xxx type of individual)
Correct? Don't know, but looking at photos of Bretschneider.....perhaps not impossible....

Cheers
Stig

Stig,

Yes. That is the translation that Barbas offered in the Kookaburra Technical Publications editions all those years ago

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Nick Hector

Stig,

Yes. That is the translation that Barbas offered in the Kookaburra Technical Publications editions all those years ago

Ahh

Memory not totally gone then....
But is it correct?

Cheers
Stig