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Old 29th November 2018, 21:09
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Hi Michael

Hope I'm not proved wrong, but I believe both Joachim Brendel and Gunther Josten to have been honest, as Dahl's were not even dis-honest claims but post-war fictional claims, then Josten and Brendel would be tops.

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Good evening Johannes,

when did Brendel score his kill #156 ?

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Old 30th November 2018, 13:29
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Re: Strange case of Walter Dahl

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Don't know, between 14th of December 1944 and 14th January 1945, but guess you already know that. I have a feeling his flugbuch survived the war, perhaps it will surface one day.

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Another thought I had was that these Leistungsbuch papers came from the Hans Ring collection, I do know that he sometimes like to play games, he produced an abschusselist for Woidich which explains the 110 claims often quoted for him, yet his own abschusselist doesn't contain the twenty-eight claims for July 1944 that Ring included, in fact these twenty-eight claims not only do not fit the constant pattern of Woidich's claims, but JG 52 just wasn't claiming this month...…..I would guess because they were constantly moving base.
I think the huge Ring collection has started to surface in sales as Hans is now in a care home, he is a strange guy, often very friendly, and cared for his Mother who he lived with, guess she must have died, I can remember when she was 103 years old, and that's a few years ago.

See Woidich attached biography and note the(Ring)July 1944 claims(not on the mikrofilms) and see how out of place they appear.Attachment 17430
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Re: Strange case of Walter Dahl

Good evening Johannes,

yes you mentioned that strange Woidich issue.
http://www.jg52.net/ritterkreuztraeger/franz-woidich/
What might have been the motivation of Hans Ring to do this ?

Have a good December,

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Re: Strange case of Walter Dahl

Hi Michael

Have never meet Herr Ring, but a couple of my friends have. They said he was a friendly and generous guy, so don't know what motivated him. He used to attend lots of Luftwaffe reunions, then one day somebody upset him, don't know who or what was said, but Herr Ring then stopped attending reunions, and basically stopped cooperating with Luftwaffe enthusiasts.

I can only imagine that his motivation was being tired of being constantly asked for information, so liked to play a joke or two.

I think he is still alive and living in a care home, as his Mother lived well into her hundreds then hopefully his own lifespan will be a very long one. His most wonderful documental collection seems to be being sold-off. Whereas I would like to get hold of some of this, well the biggest Luftwaffe documental collection in the World, I guess I am just happy that it's importance has been understood and it's not just been thrown in a skip somewhere.


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