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Old 21st July 2006, 19:16
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The designation "G - 14" was found on the ID plate (registered in the report)
Yes, together with the maker's name of mcu (Erla - Leipzig), and VW+HO. Also a DB 605AM engine (painted on crankcase cover), C3 fuel, and MW-50 tank. Interestingly, the main fuel tank was of light alloy with no self-sealing rubber coating.

As I mentioned above, the complete report is under "articles" in the "109 Lair."
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Old 21st July 2006, 19:27
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It seems certain that G-14 production did not begin at Erla until August, ...
This means the G - 14 production began before August 1944 ...

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Old 25th July 2006, 14:47
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Re: Me 109 blocks 464400- AS?

a couple of hundreds of conversion kits (350 IIRC) were issued early 1944 (march IIRC) so as to modify the /U2 109s. Those were using the heavy insulated GM-1 tank and the kits included conversion of the later to MW-50 use. At the same time the /U2 already in production were modified to a G-14 status even if the designation did not exists at the time. Indeed some G-6/U2 were produced with the light alluminium tank which could only be used with MW-50.
So yes the MW-50 introduction pre-date the introduction of the G-14 designation.
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Old 26th July 2006, 23:04
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The designation "G - 14" was found on the ID plate (registered in the report)
In case you're interested, there are 2 photos of G-14 413 601 in Jochen Prien's superb "JG 1 und 11. Part 2: 1944" on page 1081. He labels the a/c as a G-6, but from the condition of the a/c there is no doubt that the maker's plate was recovered, which showed it was a G-14. The story about Uffz. Jakob Vogel's loss is a strange one.
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Re: Me 109 blocks 464400- AS?

Hello George,

I haven't my Copy of the JG 1/ JG 11 - chronicle by my hands but: is there the battery box visible?

He labeled this a/c as G - 6 because it was registered in German loss report as G - 6 IIRC.

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Old 27th July 2006, 04:58
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is there the battery box visible?
Yes, just barely; but it is visible. And, its location is commented on in the British report. Poor positioning, lousy access.
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