Which P-47 was shot down by German Pilot Ziesmann?

[Horst Weber]

Originally Posted by Rottler

Hello Rolf,

on 18 Nov 1944 a Thunderbolt was lost near Boron, 15 km southeast of Belfort, German casuality no. ME 2419 (MACR list November 1944). Unfortunately no time of the crash, serial and unit is given. The crash location points to one of the French Thunderbolts.

Regards
Leo

Fits perfect

Belfort was attacked by the First French Army and the forts were taken from November 14th - 20th 1944 . On November 18th, in the about 15 km southeast located Boron, a Wehrmacht unit could have easily investigated the P-47 crash, sent the results by mail to Oberursel, whose compiled
ME 2419.

On the other hand, a crashed enemy aircraft should had been visible at the location for the reporting Wehrmacht unit, since a ME-report was compiled.

Postwar, all of those Oberursel-files went to the U.S. for investigation of U.S. fates.

Probably, the postwar transcripts and catalogues for the allied losses are not so detailed as the U.S. ones, since the U.S. sent them direct to the Nations of concern. And a publication of this matter was probaly handled in this states under other circumstances as the U.S. handled it.

Horst Weber