List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

[Matti Salonen]

If anyone is still interested in DB numbers, enclosed 605 A engines, which were used in Finland.

Please note that the engine numbers may be incomplete (at least the preceding zeros omitted). This list is compiled using war-time documents and aircraft cards and the clerks have not always understood meaning of the complete serial number.

Matti

[Tony Kambic]

Matti and Steve,

These can be added to the DB603 listing:

He219 A-2 WkNr 290202
DB603 A2 01602821 DB603 AA 01602842

Me410 A-2/U1 WkNr 10018 F6+WK
DB603 A2 501016 DB603 A2 500258

Tony

[Dénes Bernád]

Surprisingly, the Finns have received at least two DB 605A engines, manufactured in Hungary.

[KrisJG3]

But missing information about DB engines mounted in Bf109 G10 version ?


BR
Kris

[schwarze-man]

Excellent posts Matti! Thankyou.

I would be grateful if you or anyone can comment here on my simple observations about the production numbering of the DB600 series engines.
It seems that engines were allocated to manufacture in batch numbers. Until some point around mid-1943, all DB601/605 seem to be 5 figure numbers. Also, these seem to have quite a spread at similar times so, in the summer of 1940, you can see Bf109E with engine numbers like 10xxx upto 60xxx. You can follow this pattern with increasing engine numbering but, with wide variation of the actual number blocks. I suggest this represents number block allocation in the first two numbers, so that at the same time a certain plant might be building the DB605A block 76xxx and, another plant building block 25xxx. This pattern continues through until the series gets up to the 90xxx numbers around mid 1943. There seems to then be some six-number engines but, more definitively, then come the eight-number engines that seem to maybe have a constructor code before the batch/serial number eg. the 001xxxxx or 007xxxxx type of numbers. These engines look to be the mid 1943 onwards DB605A and AS series.
It looks like the DB605D production has 9-number serials, almost all in the "batch" 01110xxxx, with the highest last4 numbered 011102699. There are some anomalies in these 109K-4 listings, with 1170xxxx 8-number listings that probably have left off the first 0, but that looks to me like another 605D "batch"/manufacturer.
Obviously, there are contradictions but, these general patterns are there, I think!? Cheers

SM

[Dénes Bernád]

Was this topic of German engine numbers discussed, in detail, in any publication (book, magazine)?

[schwarze-man]

Originally Posted by Dénes Bernád

Was this topic of German engine numbers discussed, in detail, in any publication (book, magazine)?

Hi Dénes! I am not aware of this detail before, anywhere. Cheers

SM

[he219research]

Originally Posted by Tony Kambic

Matti and Steve,

These can be added to the DB603 listing:

He219 A-2 WkNr 290202
DB603 A2 01602821 DB603 AA 01602842

Tony

Tony, are you certain about this?
I have the following listed (for WkNr 290202 @ NASM):
- left engine: DB603EM(?) , 01603067
- right engine: DB603AA , 01604893

[Tony Kambic]

I have some nice images of the engine Wrk Nr./dataplates to show, but now cannot figure out how to edit my old images to make room since I have no room to upload. Used to be easy but I have been all over this site and cannot locate where I manage my uploaded images.

Tony

[Tony Kambic]

I tried shrinking images so here are at least three. These DB603s are the ones that were preserved/restored for the He219. As I recall, three He219 were brought to the US as part of operation Lusty. There were additional engines of various types also shipped over.

These are the engines on the museum floor that will go on the He219 at Udvar-Hazy.

In the images you will see that one of the engines has the original dataplate while on the other engine it is missing. The 2842 dataplate shows the engine as an 'AA' model while the stamping shows 'A2'. You can also see a 2826 stamped in the block below to the right of the dataplate. Shows that possibly engine blocks were swapped.

Good news is that the He219 is getting closer to being put together. The radar dipole struts are now installed on the nose, and the dipoles are ready. The landing gear is is the shop being readied. I just saw one of the spinners on the floor uncrated and being readied. And there is work being done on the wing at the attachment points.

Tony