The Eagles Over Europe Project

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Dear all,

Most of you are acknowledgded "Professional" Historians and Researchers who have inspired the other 50-70% of the members during the years.

For those who have not yet Edited a book....privately or not...IT IS NOT EASY fellows....not easy....and we do have (the non-professional writers or researchers who do have other occupations as means of living) Families too and health problems and social problems as well - personnel, etc...

I am not familiar with this topic, but do give credit to the writers and time...How many years it took to a French Historian such as J-Y Lorant to research and publish his masterpiece about JG 300: 25 years....

I have been during the last 7+ years researching about the Brazilians in RAF Service...some 120+ biographies...more than 2,200 written pages and it is UNFINISHED...due to a lot of factors, other projects, personal life, problems (lot!), kid and Family to take care....but I do write a bit, every single day...a small step forward...

Let's hope that this Project will be finished...maybe the owner or idealist do need some help...Alone we do nothing...(maybe we do, but we do need help, this is what I meant).

Let's stop making critics but stimulate new historians like JEREMY who wrote a magnific piece of History onto this 14 April 1943...most of us, non-professional or acclaimed historians we do need support and help...and places like this Fórum to meet similars and SHARE and LEARN together.

I do remain, must humbly yours,
Adriano

[rof120]

Originally Posted by Adriano Baumgartner

Dear all,

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For those who have not yet Edited a book....privately or not...IT IS NOT EASY fellows....not easy....(…)
Adriano

Hello Adriano. I enjoy your posts but this is not the point now. It seems that (all?) languages which are more or less of Latin origin, i.e. Italian, French, Romanian, Spanish, Portugese, and also English to a large extent, and even German too (for a large part of Germany was Roman for a long time), have many words and also misunderstandings in common. The cause of the latter is the fact that at the origin there was a common Latin word but these languages underwent separate evolutions in the course of many centuries (at least 20).

This is why you used the word "edited" here ("edited a book"). It is not a crime of yours but it can be misleading to English-speaking people who are not aware of the many words which are common and different to English and other languages. I trust you meant people who PUBLISHED some books as publishers, i.e. those who check and scrutinize manuscripts, accept some of them for publication and then do all the necessary work (or toil) to actually find printers, have the text printed, sell and spread the copies (how many? 100 or rather 10,000?), pay the printers (no small amounts) and the author royalties etc.

Every time you have posted a message here at TOCH there is a button at the bottom with the word "Edit". This means that you can edit your text: not publish it as a book but make changes and corrections, modifications… This is what "edit" means. Publishing books is a publisher's job.

I am not trying to play schoolmaster and correct texts here, not at all, but this is one of the most frequent misunderstandings. Be very careful whenever an English word looks much the same as the corresponding word of your own language. In very numerous cases this is a trap and both words which look the same have different meanings. Some of the worst traps are "eventually", "actually" and also "gun", which most foreign people don't really understand.

Here are but a few examples - perhaps they can help a few people:

English: publisher(s)

French: éditeur or maison d'édition

Portugese: perhaps "editor" (?) - I don't know

German: Verleger or Verlagshaus ("publishing house")

Good luck for your work and your efforts.

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by rof120

I am not trying to play schoolmaster and correct texts here, not at all

Good, because that would be completely off-topic.

Now, if anyone wants to offer a clear progress report on the Eagles Over Europe project then great. Otherwise, how about we let this thread drop?