He111 crew murdered on the 11th of may 1940.

[Skyraider3D]

Originally Posted by Sergio Luis dos Santos

I remember to have read this on an old book. Maybe Angrifshöne 4000 (I know I wrote the name competly wrong since I have the edition published in Portugal...)

You mean 40000 Kilometer Feindflug? I have an original copy of that at home. Very hard to read, due to the font used.

[Larry Hickey]

Note: someone with info on this who cannot post here has some meaningful information on this issue. I am quoting some of his remarks on the subject for the sake of furthering this discussion--Larry Hickey:

"It seems that this incident really took place. Many years ago I read a fairly precise account of it in one of the many issues of "Icare" (French aviation review published by the pilots' trade union SNPL) devoted to the fighting in the 1940 French Campaign. I can't remember in which issue this article was (the article was much longer than that and the "Senegalese incident" was only a short part of it), perhaps one of the "Bombardement" issues. The author witnessed this beheading himself but was not able to do anything. Approximate quotation : "A few Senegalese troops walked towards the German aircraft and suddenly, before anybody could do anything, they calmly beheaded all German airmen with their coupe-coupes" (African kind of machete).

I think these soldiers were convinced that they were doing the right thing: they were standing in front of enemy soldiers wearing enemy uniforms (and still armed with pistols!) so they killed them, in their eyes this certainly was all right. Most probably their French officers had never bothered to teach them a few rules, like not killing enemy prisoners or such soldiers who obviously were unable to fight. Senegal has traditions very different from those of France or Germany and this was even more true 1940. Clearly the responsible men were the French officers."

Hope this is useful.

[Bernard]

Thanks a lot Larry, I' ll try to find the Icare issue.

Best regards.

Bernard.

[Tom Semenza]

It would seem some Germans were more in tune with "Senagalese tradition" than others. Particularly the members of the Waffen-SS and various death squads employed in the East.

Tom

[George Hopp]

Gee, Tom, name me one country involved in any recent war that didn't indulge in a little extra-curricular murder.

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by George Hopp

Gee, Tom, name me one country involved in any recent war that didn't indulge in a little extra-curricular murder.

The crucial difference being between "extra-curricular" and "curricular" don't you think?

[RT]

Sorry what is the meaning of curricular ???

700.000 deads hv to be classed among the curricular or extra-curricular ??

remi

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by RT

Sorry what is the meaning of curricular ???

700.000 deads hv to be classed among the curricular or extra-curricular ??

remi

It is an analogy from the world of education: curricular = on the curriculum (part of the official, approved programme of study); extra-curricular = not approved or not official, something extra.

In the present context, I meant that murder of one's enemies (real enemies or imagined ones) was inherent in Nazi ideology and practice.

[Sergio Luis dos Santos]

Originally Posted by Skyraider3D

You mean 40000 Kilometer Feindflug? I have an original copy of that at home. Very hard to read, due to the font used.

No, no. Its and old book I guess late 60´s by Cajus Bekker (just remembered the author´s name now!). I have an edition printed in Portugal that has some stranges terms to us in Brasil...