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Old 17th July 2019, 22:06
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Research Heinkel He-177 - 8 June 1944

Hello,

In order to complete my next book, I’m looking informations about an Heinkel He-177 straffed and shot down on 8 June 1944.

This plane was shot down at 17h10 near Angoulême, near the town of Claix (south west of France) and was straffed by Lieutenant William J McGinty with the help of Lieutenant Cleveland J Brien Jr (355th Fighter Group).

About what I found, there was 4 soldiers injured and 1 soldier killed.

Can you help me to find informations about the unit of this plane and the name of the crew members ?

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Old 18th July 2019, 00:04
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Re: Research Heinkel He-177 - 8 June 1944

See this old thread which has some information of interest.

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=17221

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Old 18th July 2019, 06:48
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Re: Research Heinkel He-177 - 8 June 1944

Maybe this:
1944-06-08, 13./KG 40, He 177 A-3, 535673, F8+DX, Bei Angoulême, 38 km ostsüdöstlich Cognac
Flugzeugführer Olt Heuritsch, Richard, +
Beobachter Fhj-Uffz Zander, Heinz, +
Bordfunker Fw Ditsche, Wolfgang, +
Bordwart Fw Sellmeyer, Friedolin, +
Bordschütze Ogfr Michalke, Adolf, +
Bordschütze Gefr Schafsteller, Wilhelm, +
1.Wart Uffz Schubert, Alfred, +
Luftkampf mit P-51 beim Überführungsflug. Bruch 100 %.

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Re: Research Heinkel He-177 - 8 June 1944

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Maybe this:
1944-06-08, 13./KG 40, He 177 A-3, 535673, F8+DX, Bei Angoulême, 38 km ostsüdöstlich Cognac
Flugzeugführer Olt Heuritsch, Richard, +
Beobachter Fhj-Uffz Zander, Heinz, +
Bordfunker Fw Ditsche, Wolfgang, +
Bordwart Fw Sellmeyer, Friedolin, +
Bordschütze Ogfr Michalke, Adolf, +
Bordschütze Gefr Schafsteller, Wilhelm, +
1.Wart Uffz Schubert, Alfred, +
Luftkampf mit P-51 beim Überführungsflug. Bruch 100 %.

Matti
Hello,

That’s so incredible !!! I searched these informations for so many years, thanks a lot.

When there is a «*+*» at the end of the soldier’s name, is because they are dead ?
Is it possible to find where they are buried ?
Do you know if it’s «*easy*» to find a photo from this plane ?

I know where this plane was shot down, I have to go to detect there.

Thanks again for your help.
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Re: Research Heinkel He-177 - 8 June 1944

In answer to two of your questions:

+ = dead

German War Graves Association: https://www.volksbund.de/en/volksbund.html
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Re: Research Heinkel He-177 - 8 June 1944

Hello,

With your help, I just found the graves of the soldiers killed on 8.6.1944.
They were buried in the German Cemetery of Berneuil.

Here are the photos of their grave :

Alfred Schubert
Adolf Michalke




Wilhelm Schafsteller



Richard Heuritsch



Fridolin Sellmeyer
Heinrich Zander




Do you know how it could be possible to find photos of these soldiers or families ?

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Re: Research Heinkel He-177 - 8 June 1944

Hello,

I found this photo on internet of an He 177 A-3 with the identification "F8".
Do you think that it could be the plane "F8+DX" i'm looking for ?



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Re: Research Heinkel He-177 - 8 June 1944

Without sight of the last two letters on the fuselage, highly unlikely
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Re: Research Heinkel He-177 - 8 June 1944

The photo in post #7 shows the unit code still in large letters, which were in use until spring 1943. Before that time only the 1./KG 40 was equipped with the He 177A-1.
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Re: Research Heinkel He-177 - 8 June 1944

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The photo in post #7 shows the unit code still in large letters, which were in use until spring 1943. Before that time only the 1./KG 40 was equipped with the He 177A-1.
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