Uffz Heinz Krösing RK?

[Nick Beale]

In the appendices to Harald Rabeder's "Die Knullenkopstaffel" this pilot is listed as Uffz. Krössing [double-s] and the aircraft as Ju 88 T-1, W.Nr. 430651, 4U+GH.

The narrative says "The pilot, Uffz. Krössing, has already been awarded the Frontflugspange in Silver". The appendix on special awards to members of 1.(F)/123 lists only Ehrenpokal and DKiG recipients, no Ritterkreuz-Träger at all.

[ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by Chris Goss

I would like to know what a double RK was? RK with Bar?

maybe the second grade, a knight's cross with oak leaves?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight...the_Iron_Cross

but I've never heard of "double" either ...


regards
ghost

[Richey4Real]

Quite obviously a case of mistaking both classes of iron crosses rather than the much higher knights cross.

[ghostwriter]

may I ask from whom?

ghost

[knusel]

Originally Posted by Richey4Real

Quite obviously a case of mistaking both classes of iron crosses rather than the much higher knights cross.

That's a convincing explanation.

[BrianC]

Hi guys

I've only just spotted this discussion - most interesting. However, I can't throw any light on my statements regarding the decorations awarded.

Not being a Luftwaffe expert (nor any other type of expert) I have to rely on what others have written. No excuse, I know, but one can't question every so-called fact one reads elsewhere.

In defence, I can only say that I didn't make up the statements!

Cheers
Brian

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Brian,

Guess that we all make mistakes, as Human Beings.

Your statement above just show your humility and grandness as a Historian, in my opinion.

It may be impossible for us all here to know just about everything about WW2 combats, etc...or to cross-check everything (we should) before writing...this is why, some times, one or two small mistakes may appear here or there in books (not only yours, but the sole I wrote, and other's authors too). That not make you all, acknowledged writers worst or better. It is the summary of one's work that do represent one's life of researches, etc.

Me too I understood that the particular airman was granted both Classes of Eisern Kreuz (EKII and EKI); not the RK or even EL...and, as some members of this board have checked on the RK-Lists or DKiG-lists and books, there is no match.

KEEP GOING...wonderful work that of yours.

A.

[knusel]

Hello Brian,

hope you're doing fine.
Adriano Baumgartner is right: the abovementioned detail does not diminish the high praiseworthiness of your work and your modesty underscores your credibility
I've worked through 4 Brian Cull books so far and I enjoyed them all very much !

All the best to your projects,

Michael

[BrianC]

Hi guys

I've been scratching the old cranium regarding from where I might have obtained the information!

The best that I have come up with is that I believe I had access to an A.I.(K) interrogation report. I will have to hunt amongst tons of rubbish in an effort to find it, and if I do I'll let you know!

In passing, thanks to Adriano and Michael for votes of confidence!

Cheers
Brian

[knusel]

Hello Gentlemen,

indeed there is but one odd example for a double-RK: Hermann Göring sometimes wore at the same time his Grand Cross + his "normal" RK + his Pour le Mérite.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015...8312276579.jpg

Michael