List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

[schwarze-man]

Great to see this thread here as a Sticky!

Members, please donate your DB600/601,603,605 engine data. This thread can act as a great resource. Thanks

SM

[Tony Kambic]

Yes it is great to see this.

How about this for a new number: A589106 for a DB610.

I believe this is the one in storage at Garber from a He177. There are some instrument panels from the He177 on display at Udvar-Hazy.

Tony

[S Sheflin]

Hello Tony,
Your new DB 610 number, A589106, is interesting because it is so different.
I have documented thirty-three DB 610 Motornummern so far. I have additional numbers that I have not yet entered.
Of these, 32 have MNrn. with 207 xxxxx prefixes. The exception is NiMo-built DB 610 B-1 MNr. 202 00022
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

[schwarze-man]

Thanks for posting your info about the DB610 gentlemen! I have many questions about 610 engine numbers and dataplates. The DB610 was constructed from two DB605 engines, paired through a common drive to a single propeller. However, the two DB605 component engines were not standard DB605's . Probably for harmonic vibration reasons of the coupled engines, the firing order was changed from 1,8,5,10,3,7,6,11,2,9,4,12 of a standard DB605 to 1,11,2,9,4,7,6,8,5,10,3,12 of a DB610 component engine. The cylinders are numbered right bank 1-6 and left bank 7-12, both bank numbering starting at the front. This firing difference was achieved with the same crank but, the camshafts, ignition harness and injection pump delivery plumbing had to change to match the changed firing order. Additionally, the righthand component engine had a complete mirror arrangement of supercharger, boost pipes with throttles and rear gearcase to accommodate its air inlet on the righthand side instead of the left side. The component engines were designated DB605W and DB605X for left and right component engine. Now, this leads me to ask how the engines were identified in practice? The DB type numbers for the component engines were DB605W and DB605X. Were these component engines given ID plates with this designation and numbering within the DB605 series? I can imagine that they did because, a problem with a component engine might require that it be exchanged for another. Did the DB610 complete "engine" have a complicated data plate (maybe on the combining gearhousing?) that listed the component engines fitted and, with spare spaces for changes to the component engines? Cheers

SM

[Dénes Bernád]

A small mystery. What kind of engine was this one, identified as "V 17"?

[schwarze-man]

Originally Posted by Dénes Bernád

A small mystery. What kind of engine was this one, identified as "V 17"?

Hi Denes,
I only see a written title "Flugzeug Werk-Nr. 13878 Motor DB 605 A-1 Werk-Nr. V17".
From this I would expect this would be the Bf109 13878 with the engine prototype DB605 V17. However, if this is correct, I think the caption saying DB605 A-1 V17 is a little unusual. A-1 identifies an A-1 production engine. I believe that the prototype engines were DB605 V?? , initial 0 series engines were DB605 A-0.

Cheers

SM

[Dénes Bernád]

The engine was not a prototype, it was a DB 605 A-1. The construction number was given as "V 17". The other engines in this list are identified with proper Werknummern, except for this one. That's why I sought the opinion of others, to solve this small "mystery".

[newcomer]

Originally Posted by schwarze-man

Hi Denes,
I only see a written title "Flugzeug Werk-Nr. 13878 Motor DB 605 A-1 Werk-Nr. V17".
From this I would expect this would be the Bf109 13878 with the engine prototype DB605 V17. However, if this is correct, I think the caption saying DB605 A-1 V17 is a little unusual. A-1 identifies an A-1 production engine. I believe that the prototype engines were DB605 V?? , initial 0 series engines were DB605 A-0.

Cheers

SM

In the book "Messerschmitt Bf 109, The Yugoslav Story, Operational Record 1939-1953, Volume II", by Ciglic, Savic and Micevski, in the list of Yugoslav AF register of Bf 109G, page 188, for the two-seat Bf-109G YAF s/n 9943 had DB 605 V13.