Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #6  
Old 7th December 2019, 01:19
Jukka Juutinen Jukka Juutinen is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,195
Jukka Juutinen is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Ju 88 endurance

Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Boak View Post
Sorry Jukka, but I sincerely hope that no-one relies on this advice. All aircraft have a minimum drag speed. This is also the optimum speed for maximum endurance, because more power is needed to fly either faster (because of an increase in zero-lift drag) or slower (because of an increase in lift-induced drag). I suggest looking up the term "drag polar".

I'm afraid my official technical education in performance was restricted to jet engines. In this case the optimum cruise speed is indeed faster than the optimum endurance speed, because of the behaviour of the turbine engine with velocity. (As I understand it.) Many years after first being gainfully employed in the business, I had the opportunity to study the notes of a fellow engineer from another college, and was surprised to learn that for a piston engined aircraft the speed for best endurance and the speed for best range are identical - the minimum drag speed.

So once at the optimum cruise speed, any Ju.88 pilot could only fly at a lower speed by increasing power. This is because of the need to fly at a greater angle of attack to obtain enough lift, hence increasing the lift-induced drag, which would increase the total drag more than the reduction in zero-lift drag gained by reducing speed. More power = higher fuel flow = less endurance. And less range.
Graham, you are totally missing the point. Endurance is time, therefore the greatest endurance is obtained at the lowest power that maintains altitude and that is much less that for maximum air range. For example, the PBY-5 Catalina's Pilot's Notes states that maximum air range is obtained at 90 - 92 kts. IAS whereas when flying for maximum endurance the IAS may be reduced to as low as 80 kts. comfortably. I challenge you to find a pilot manual for a WW2 piston aeroplane stating that max air range and max. endurance speeds are exactly the same.
__________________
"No man, no problem." Josef Stalin possibly said...:-)
Reply With Quote
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Athens-Tatoi Andy Mitchell Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 24 3rd May 2020 11:50
1./(F)123 Losses 1943 Melvin Brownless Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 43 30th January 2016 11:33
Ju 88 G-7 Roger Gaemperle Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 5 6th December 2012 12:52
11.04.1944 Bay of Biscay battle ZG1 vs. RAS 151 sqn 248 sqn FrankieS Allied and Soviet Air Forces 10 24th October 2012 19:44
Ju188 lost in France Eric Larger Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 16 15th December 2011 23:47


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:04.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2026, 12oclockhigh.net