Hartmann: claims vs. victories

[HGabor]

Thanks Russell, very interesting. Just briefly, this is what we have info for - here without the details, as it would be waaaaay too long... I'd consider everything else as overclaims for these days:

December 23, 1944:
17 VA:

2 La-5F - 1 fighter, 1 lost orientation, couldn't find base, crashlanded (no fuel?)
1 Yak-9D - fighter (Bf 109)
1 Yak-9M - fighter (Bf 109)
4 IL-2m3 - 4 to flak

5 VA:

6 IL-2m3, plus 1 seriously damaged, repaired (131 GvShAP, S/N: 19355)
1 La-5F - engine problem, repaired after crashlanding
1 Yak-1B (331 IAD, wear and tear, scrapped. S/N: 41177)

(In 5 VA list: 2 IL-2 combat losses to fighters)


December 24, 1944:
17 VA:

12 IL-2m3 - At least 5 to flak, 1 to accident, rest probably to fighters
5 La-5F - 2 accidents, rest fighters?
2 La-5FN - 1 scrapped after dogfight,
1 Yak-9D - 1 MIA
1 Yak-1B - 1 MIA

5 VA:

8 IL-2m3 - at least 3 to flak, 1 engine problem, rest to fighters?
3 Yak-1B - MIA and fighter

Contradicting 5 VA list: 1 Yak-9 MIA, 2 IL-2 to fighters, 2 IL-2 to flak.

VVS HQ:
1 Pe-2 (48 Гв.ОРАП, S/N: 19/296) - fighter, crashlanded

Night of December 24/25, 1944:

17 VA:
2 IL-2m3 (989 ShAP) in air-raid on ground: S/N: 10687 and 18744102 without crews.

December 25, 1944:

17 VA:

3 La-5 - 1 accident, 2 to fighters
4 Yak-1B - 3 to fighters, 1 MIA
2 Yak-9D - MIA
1 Yak-9T - fighter
3 Yak-9M - fighter
3 IL-2m3 - 1 flak, 1 fighter, 1 accident
1 Po-2 biplane (282 ОАПС, S/N: 14821) - fighter (Oblt. Norbert Schmitt (3./SG 10 as 'R-5')

5 VA:

1 Yak-1B - ground collision
1 Yak-9M - ground collision
1 IL-2m3 - training flight accident

No combat loss.
Gabor