Photo Nieuport

[Buckeye30]

Hi Stig. The Nieuport XVII N1831 in the photo was from N.77 (SPA.77 from August 1917),their insignia was a cross of Jerusalem on a pennant but some XVIIs had elaborate personal emblems, the comet was Ltt. Jose Maria ( POW). It was repeated on top of the fuselage.

N.86 had a winged star rather than a comet, mostly on SPADS.
I hope I havn't got my facts wrong !!!
Nick
The other looks like a Nie.10 or early 12, later had different cowlings.

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Buckeye30

Hi Stig. The Nieuport XVII N1831 in the photo was from N.77 (SPA.77 from August 1917),their insignia was a cross of Jerusalem on a pennant but some XVIIs had elaborate personal emblems, the comet was Ltt. Jose Maria ( POW). It was repeated on top of the fuselage.

N.86 had a winged star rather than a comet, mostly on SPADS.
I hope I havn't got my facts wrong !!!
Nick
The other looks like a Nie.10 or early 12, later had different cowlings.

Thanks Nick
So it was a personal emblem. Oh well, the aircraft is certainly not carrying any N77 unit markings. The French obviously did pretty much as they wanted to....

Indeed the second one is a 10 or 12, but which one?

Cheers
Stig

[Bertrand H]

#4

Many thanks Col. for having matched the loss of this captured Nieuport with the info put in the book of Johan Ryheul (that I have). I think you have "milked" this book and put details in your data.

Very appreciated.

Bertrand

[musec04]

Hello,


Thanks to everyone for their responses.


There are some photographs and a colour profile of N1831 in German markings at:


https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/291959988326149761/


and speaking of Nieuport machines in foreign colours there is a photo of Italian Nieuport 17 N3242 (at least I assume that it is both a Nieuport 17 and Italian) at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/Grande-Guerr...UAAOSwRsJeVZV0


and some less clear Italian machines here:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/n-2-foto-WW1...cAAOSwa5Rd~-m0



Regards,


Clint

[Stig Jarlevik]

Clint

It is not N3242 but Ni 3242. The latter looks like Model 11 to me and with such a high Italian serial number is most likely a Macchi built one. The Italian company started its days as Nieuport-Macchi with the sole pupose of building Niuport models under licence. They "advanced" up the ladder by also building the Hanriot HD.I....

They also designed some parasol types based upon the Nieuport fuselage.
A very interesting company

Cheers
Stig