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Old 3rd September 2006, 12:52
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Re: Hungarian Air Force in 1956?

Mirek,
the Hungarian Air Force flown only some recconaisance actions over Soviets ground forces with Jak-11 / Let C-11 planes mainly. No air combat between Hungarian and Soviet planes are known, some Hungarian planes were damaged by Ground fire (Jak-11, Jak-12 are known).

The Hungarian air forces made some actions against Hungarian civilians killing some people during late October accoring to kommunist political command, but it was quickly forbidden by the Air Force HQ (and some Hungarian pilots use their weapons not against civilians but shot into the air over empty territories because they did not agreed with this command, or simply sabotage this command since it was military crime). During these actions one Hungarian MiG-15bis ("red 805" c/n. 31530805 of 62nd Fighter Wing) collided with ground killing its pilot Istenes Elemér fhdgy.

The Soviet Air force lost at least to planes:
"Red 33" Mi-4T of 239. GvTAP. crashed into hill on November 7, 1956, killing 3 soviets, and
an IL-28 R was shot down over Budapest from 880. GvBAP. on November 8, 1956 killing its crew: cap. Alekszej Andrejevich Bobrovszkij pil. CO, cap. Dimitrij Dimitrijevich Karmisin navigator, Vlagyimir Jegorovich Jarcev. They
all received HSU posthumusly.

In early November some Tu-4 was ordered back by a clear minded soviet officer shortly after crossing the Roumanian-Hungarian border during a night bombing raid against Budapest.

Regards,
Péter

"Poland had organised a great support/help for Hungarian in these days."

Polak-Wegier dwa bratanki,
I do szabli i do szklanki.

(sorry, Polish language not my best)
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